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Re 50 kw public charging stations

  • 01-12-2021 10:17pm
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can anyone tell me if there's a map of where there is 50 kw chargers located around ireland.im not interested in the 22kw ...only the fast chargers of 50kw and above.thanks



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭ markpb


    Plugshare.com allows you to filter based on charge point type. Set it to CCS and it should exclude all 22kW AC chargers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭ zg3409


    ESB ecars app also has a filter with a funnell shaped logo, you can filter by CCS or ChaDeMo depending on your car connector type.

    Esbs app shows only ESB chargers. There is some non ESB chargers. Plugshare app shows all brands, such as Ionity, easygo etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭ 10-10-20


    OpenCharge map also, just select the setting button in the top right and drag the slider to a few kW short of 50kW.




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭ 10-10-20


    Also, if you're route-planning, ABRP (https://abetterrouteplanner.com/) allows you to select suppliers or min speeds, etc.

    Both ABRP and OCM have apps available.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hi thanks all for the info ..I'm getting a Kia ev6 in January..all I know is that it's a type 2 charger...I know nothing about ccs ,chadimo ect...are they company's or types of connectors?.....if I search ccs on the map will it work with an ev6...so confused.



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  • Moderators Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    All* EV can charge off of 2 types of plug (CHAdeMO, CCS, Type 2). 100% of new cars will use the type 2 socket for AC charging.

    AC charging is what you'll be doing at home, or at work. It's the slower means of charging and than 99 times out of 100 when you're doing it in public, you'll need to use your own cable. The EV6 can charge at 11kW on AC, meaning it can put 11kWh of power in per hour. It has a 77kWh battery, so that's ~7hours to charge from zero to 100% on a public charger. At home, you'll be limited to 7kW (Single phase power at 230V/32A = 7.3kW), so ~11 hours to charge from zero to 100%.

    The second type of plug cars car use is for DC charging. "DC charging" is interchangeable with "fast charging", and the EV6 does this very well. To fast charge, you'll need to find a CCS plug. Most are limited to 50kW in Ireland, so for a 77kWh battery like the EV6 has, you'll be over an hour charging from zero to 100%. It's worth noting that EVs charge their fastest up to 80%. After that things slow down, so typically drivers move on at or before 80%. There are a dozen or so high powered chargers in Ireland. Galway plaza, carrick on shannon, Park Ri Kells, Athlone, Ballinalack mullingar, Mayfield, Kilcullen, Ballacolla, Rochestown. And Ionity have a number of location too. These HPC are better suited for the EV6, and will charge much faster than the standard 50kW units.


    TLDR: Type 2 for slow (hours) charging, CCS for "splash and dash" charging in an EV6.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's a great explanation thank......what about these different cards that you pay with ...where can you get them and are they for DC charging ?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭ rx8


    Don't go mad getting a lot of cards...

    Register with ESB E-Cars and get the card from them at an absolute minimum. Then maybe Easy-go. They will send you a fob to activate the charge point. Great for free charging in Lidl etc. They also have an app that starts the charger too.

    Definitely download ABRP (a better route planner) for planning longer trips.

    Have you got a home charger yet??

    If not, then get grant approval from the SEAI website and be ready to go with that too.



  • Moderators Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    Cards wise there's 1 must have (ESB Ecars). They charge €10 for the card, but i've heard more than once of people not being able to start charging via the app and needing the card. Visa versa too, so download the esb ecars app also. Unless you're planning on using public charging a lot, go for a pay as you go account. The monthly membership for reduced rates isn't worth it for casual usage.

    Other providers in Ireland are EasyGo (download their app), and Ionity. Ionity are very expensive to use, but worth having access to if you're stuck. They'll provide the EV6 with high power so you should get great charging speeds from them should you need to use them.

    Cards are used to pay providers (esb, ionity, easygo etc) so they'll allow charging on whatever plug they offer. So yes, they can be used for DC charging, and AC charging.


    Pricing:

    ESB - 30->37c/kWh = €23-€28 to charge from zero to 100% (likely incur a 45 minute overstay fee if you did this, so that'd be an extra €5)

    EasyGo - 40c/kWh = €31 to charge from zero to 100%

    Ionity - 73c/kWh = €56 to charge from zero to 100%


    Home charging on the other hand could be as little as 6c/kWh. That's under €5 to charge from zero to 100%.



  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭ sh81722


    This clear and concise answer should be a sticky.



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  • Moderators Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    You're not the first to say that. But no sticky. :D

    Thanks



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