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Irish Team in European Team Championships


  • Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭Joedryan

    Was a great result for Tarun yesterday

  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭RooksPawn

    Big match against Scotland starts 2pm.

    The Scottish captain Alan Tate (who has 0/3) has rested himself so Tarun has a noticeably easier opponent but it will still be a tough match.

    Stephen and Trisha, who haven't scored yet, both play White.

    She's playing 11-year-old Freddie Gordon who is being hailed as the future of Scottish chess. They both did well in the European Junior Hybrid Championships (though Freddie lost in the last round).

    Zalan Nemeth had a nice win against an IM yesterday but today he has Black against Graham Morrison who has scored most of Scotland's points so far.

    All games should be live on chess24 (but there is one digital board that keeps failing to work, it seems).

  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭EnPassant

    The match finished 2-2. Tarun won, Stephen Jessel and Zalan Nemeth drew, and Trisha lost. Tomorrow is a rest day.

    The Chess Results website have details of the tournament here .

  • Registered Users Posts: 8 prey20

    Nice to see Ireland participate in this event once more and good luck to the team

    Not the strongest lineup perhaps but understood conditions not comparable to olympiads

    A recurring issue here and in the ECC event is allowing the host country extra teams without requiring they keep the numbers even - in this instance Slovenia have 2 teams in both open and women event leaving an odd number and byes in every round

  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭EnPassant

    2-2 against North Macedonia yesterday. According to the chess24 computer Ireland were winning at one point on boards 2 and 4 and losing on board 3 but all four games ended in draws.

    Wales are today's opposition.

    A recurring issue here and in the ECC event is allowing the host country extra teams without requiring they keep the numbers even - in this instance Slovenia have 2 teams in both open and women event leaving an odd number and byes in every round

    It's not ideal but most teams have 5 members so most players are not expecting to play all 9 games anyway. Only Ireland and Lithuania have just 4 players. Slovenia 2 are outscoring Slovenia 1 in both events...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭RooksPawn

    Both our matches with Scotland and North Macedonia could have finished 3-1 for or against us and both ended 2-2.

    I expect today's match with Wales could be similar. After two and a half hours play (approx) all games are very tense.

    Wales drew with Scotland yesterday which was a bit surprising as most of their plays are relative unknowns whereas several of the Scots have a lot of international experience.

    Tarun Kanyamarala is still on track for an IM norm, but really needs a win today, though a draw would not ruin his chances.

  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭EnPassant

    Great result today - a 4-0 win against Wales.

    Stephen Jessel set a clever trap which his opponent fell into in an otherwise fairly equal position.

  • Registered Users Posts: 479 ✭✭Joedryan

    The Grischuck-Firouzja game was also a great game today

    I think (or likely who knows) if Firouzja plays tomorrow and wins he will break 2800, it is an outstanding performance so far

  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭RooksPawn

    Firouzja plays Mamedyarov and would have to beat him to reach 2800, but a draw will give him the top board prize.

    It's very tight at the top of the tournament today with complicated tie-breaks possibly necessary. After Russia lost again yesterday, they are out of the running for gold and play England who have mostly been doing poorly.

    Gawain Jones, though, is leading the board 3 performance list, so is being rested today to protect that position I guess.

    Disappointing day for the Irish yesterday against Lithuania as Stephen came close to getting a result against their board 2 who is getting a GM norm. (Probably Stephen's time trouble addiction has cost him once again.) Trisha unfortunately spoiled a favourable position and blundered.

    Tarun had Black and was steadily outplayed by a 2550 opponent, but he still has a good chance of a second norm today, White against an Albanian IM. If my calculations are correct, then a draw will be just enough because the average of his opponents' ratings in 2450.25 and therefore 50 per cent is enough. (Eight game norms are allowed when a game was missed because of a bye.)

  • Registered Users Posts: 8 prey20

    Re (Eight game norms are allowed when a game was missed because of a bye.)

    1.4 The GM, IM, WGM, WIM titles can also be gained by achieving norms in internationally rated tournaments played according to the following regulations.

    1.41The number of games  

    1.41a The player must play at least 9 games, however

    1.41b only 7 games are required for 8 or 9 round World Team or Club and Continental Team or Club Championships ,

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  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭RooksPawn

    It is possible that, despite losing the last round, Tarun can claim a 7-game norm based on his results to round 8.

    That is, he would have to combine the clauses you cite together with

    1.42e. A player who has achieved a title result before the last round may ignore all games played subsequently... [on conditions which Tarun satisfied]

    However that will mean his two norms add up to only 16 games and he will need 27 so in practice he will almost certainly need two more norms.

    UNLESS he can score a norm in an 11-round tournament; there are not many of them, apart from some major junior events (where a norm would be hard to achieve because of opponents' ratings/titles, lack of), or the 2022 European Individual Championship.

    Or he could get a 10-game norm from the Reykjavik Open (if it returns in the usual format) but that would still leave him one game short unless he exceeded the norm by 1 point, which would be pretty hard.

    Realistically he is playing well enough that he should go after two more 9-game norms, but not play any more round-robins in which his sister is also competing unless they are paired in round one.