Penalty points during Learner Permit for driving alone, then passed test. How do the points work now

veryangryman

So a pal has passed her test. However prior to it, she got stopped driving alone. Appeals that she's a nurse, essential worker didn't fly with Robocop. However 3 weeks later passed a test.

So now we've a fixed charge notice. The penalty points (2 for Learner) would be applied to that license but of course she's now fully licensed. What occurs next? I'd imagine she has a good appeal case but hardly worth the solicitors fee for an €80 fine. How do the points work now? Would be weird applying them to a full license when the offence was not having a full license

callaway92

Huh? What appeal? She was driving unaccompanied.

Not sure of the rule itself but she’ll still get points/fine

SteM

I don't think it would be weird to apply them to the full license at all. Same as if caught driving a vehicle not covered by your license but you pass that test a few weeks later, you'd still get the fine and points and on your license.

blackbox

If you were caught speeding, but slowed down two weeks later, would you appeal?

veryangryman

Is it because it's boards that we have twitter-esque responses? Does she get 2 points or 3 points?

keyboard_cat

You can call the NDLS and ask them

From citizens info website “To find out how many penalty points are on your driving licence record, contact the National Driver Licence Service (NDLS) at 076 108 7880 or email info@ndls.ie, and quote your driving licence number.”

it probably depends on when the points were actually processed if she had a full licence or still the learner permit as it think it takes a few weeks to get through their system

J_R

Hi

From:-

https://rsa.ie/en/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Penalty-points/How-it-works-why-it-matters/

"Any driver accumulating 12 penalty points within any given three-year period will be automatically disqualified from driving for six months.

A lower threshold of seven penalty points leading to disqualification will apply to any driver who is granted their first learner permit on or after 1 August 2014 while they drive under a learner permit, and subsequently during the first two years while they drive under their first driving licence.

Where a driver held a learner permit before 1 August 2014 and obtained a first full licence on or after that date they will then be disqualified from driving either-

(a) on accumulating 12 penalty points in any three year period, or

(b) on accumulating seven penalty points where all seven points were accumulated after 1 August 2014 and within the first two years of holding a valid driving licence.

The driver is required to surrender his/her Irish or foreign driving licence to the National Driver Licence Service within 10 days of disqualification commencing. It is an offence not to surrender a licence. It is also an offence to drive while disqualified."

She better drive carefully next two years, only 5 points to go. Congrats on passing