dewalt trade show - worth it ?

Robbie71 · 16-10-2021 8:46am #1

Hi, theres a dewalt trade day at local Cork Builders Providers.

Any one any experience with these trade shows, good deals? and are they much cheaper than online prices .

Half thinking of getting 2 or 3 more 18v tools ,have 18v drill & driver already,

But only if good deal as I have 240v already

the_pen_turner · 17-10-2021 10:50pm

where is it on .

will the truck be there

generally better than normal days but online could easily be cheaper.

the dealers still set the prices

TimHorton · 20-10-2021 12:16pm

Go via Homedepot.com/Addrespal Route for Dewalt/Milwaukee at less than half of what you pay here.

Effects · 20-10-2021 1:15pm

Surely there's a chuck of import duty you have to pay if you go that route?

MrMusician18 · 20-10-2021 1:19pm

Go there armed with online prices and don't be afraid to leave empty handed.

I'd go to trade shows and the ploughing with my dad and he'd be there thinking that's a great price for this and that, when it's still a third more expensive than even an Irish online offering.

We always have to get something though...

CreadanLady · 20-10-2021 1:53pm

Just beware that if it is a trade oriented show they will be selling the commercial grade power tools. These are of a much higher quality and are intended for commercial users who use them all day every day. Accordingly, any given tool will easily be several multiples the price of the DIY/occasional use counterpart.

For example, you could buy a DIY Stihl chainsaw in woodies for maybe €200-€300. A commercial grade equivalent for use by tree surgeons or forestry might cost €3000, but it is built to stand up to sustained heavy use day in day out for years. The latter won't even be available to be got though the DIY sector retailers.

My dad used to say to me the odd time that "look at this, a Stihl saw for €250, that is serious value!" But he didn't realise that the distinction between commercial vs DIY grade tools existed.

The likes of Dewalt/Makita/Stihl tools of the DIY/occasional use grade tool are generally just a badge engineered version of some generic mediocre quality tool made to a price by some third party for the big brand, or the big brand give the third party their blessing to market the tool under their name and through their dealer network. The commercial grade tools are a completely different animal and often the only thing they have in common with the DIY tools is the corporate branding.

The trade show aren't going to be interested in selling DIY/occasional use tools. Woodies and B&Q are there for that.

TimHorton · 21-10-2021 9:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118047992#Comment_118047992

HomeDepot does not include Invoices in the packaging, AddressPal staff in New Jersey value stuff at very reasonable rates. I had $780 worth of stuff in 1 order and it was valued by them at $100! , So it was €29.99 Addresspal Shipping then €30 Customs Fees so all very cheap.

I have ordered via HomeDepot/Address Pal 21 times this year . The landed price of all stuff is less than half of what you would pay here, 90% of what is bought are Milwaukee Brushless Fuel tools and outdoor equipment with some Makita Brushless tools.

There are youtube channels dedicated to getting cheap deals in Homedepot for Milwaukee tools such Tool Boss, Keep an eye as I have saved a fortune on Premium equipment.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWVH1FryFHgIktQpFRpV9uQ

Effects · 21-10-2021 11:01am

Do the chargers work on both 110/230 volts?

Effects · 21-10-2021 11:02am

Actually, what I'm really after is a Festool Domino, and that's corded anyway.

Asandra · 21-10-2021 11:29am

nice nice nicee

TimHorton · 21-10-2021 1:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052606#Comment_118052606

They are 110 , They work on 110 Transformers fine (With new Plug) , Genuine 220v Chargers are available online for 30 quid, I got a Milwaukee Framing Nailer , Impact Driver and Combi drill for $399 in Jan as per this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm5fvGrqD0&t=22s , The same 3 tools in Caulfeld Industrial is over €1,100 , Some saving.

TimHorton · 21-10-2021 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118048356#Comment_118048356

Going Addresspal/HomeDepot route will give you professional tools (Milwaukee/Dewalt) for the price you will pay for a junk tool in Woddies/B&Q - Fact.

Effects · 21-10-2021 7:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118053482#Comment_118053482

I've a few chargers that work on both 110/230, but have the standard 3 pin plug.

I don't work on sites anymore, so any corded tools I've bought in the past few years have been 230v. Still have some 110v stuff, and it's a pain dealing with carrying the traffo around!

I really want the Milwaukee m12 screw gun, so might get that and see how it all works out.

the_pen_turner · 21-10-2021 7:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118054824#Comment_118054824

never heard it called a traffo before

Effects · 21-10-2021 8:51pm

It would be industry lingo I guess. I'm an electrician, but not in the game anymore. You can't use 230v power tools on site for safety reasons, so you always have a small portable transformer or a bigger one with multiple outlets.

the_pen_turner · 21-10-2021 9:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055333#Comment_118055333

i understand that. never heard it called a traffo. always called a tranny down here. or the feffin box,

you can use 230v tools on site . nothing ilegal about it if it has some kind of protective switch in the circuit, i forget what the regs say. its the indevidual sites owners that are not allowing them

Effects · 21-10-2021 10:29pm

Definitely never called then trannys around these parts 😂

Discodog · 22-10-2021 6:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118048356#Comment_118048356

I use Stihl professionally & you wouldn't pay 3000 or anything close to it. As a guide Stihl professional is around twice the price of commercial. Also Stihl commercial will be way better that most other standard equipment.

kirk. · 22-10-2021 12:51pm

DeWalt over there is using 20/60v compared to 18/54 here

I presume the batteries and chargers are incompatible with here

the_pen_turner · 22-10-2021 12:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057595#Comment_118057595

They are the same. Both 18volt or 54volt. Just marketing hullshit . They measure it with no load and we measure under load. Americans just want it to sound better

CreadanLady · 22-10-2021 1:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118053547#Comment_118053547

I think you misunderstand. I'm not talking name branded stuff vs. cheapo Woodies garbage brands like Rok or Challenge.

I am talking about the DIY grade tools versus commercial/professional grade tools both of the same big brand manufacturer.

For example, Makita do professional grade tools that cost many hundred or even thousands of euros and will last many years of sustained heavy use on sites.

Makita also do DIY/occasional use tools for the casual user which are cheapish and got through the likes of DIY places. They are grand for the casual user but wouldn't be as robust or long lived. They wouldn't last long if used day in day out on sites.

mel123 · 22-10-2021 1:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052349#Comment_118052349

Tim how do they guess the value? Do they open the packages or does it say on the box what it is and they just guess?

Himself always stocks up when people are going over but this might be a way to go now for a few bits needed for new house build

kirk. · 22-10-2021 1:37pm

It seems hard to compare models

When you Google the us model there's usually no results

kirk. · 22-10-2021 1:45pm

So I can see identical DeWalt SDS max drills at 700€ there and approx 1000 here

So I dunno would I be chancing ap for that

Do you have a warranty here with a us drill

MrMusician18 · 22-10-2021 2:09pm

Makita do not have a separate pro and DIY line to my knowledge, though they do have a domestic and export one. The domestic Makita does seemingly have a higher build quality.

A true sign of a pro line is that it is a more basic tool that is significantly more expensive than another from the same manufacturer which has a load of bells and whistles. Bosch green and blue are good examples of this. I can't think of any Makita tool that fits that description. There are 3 Makita sawsalls for example, as they get more expensive you are getting more, a brushless motor or more voltage.

A Makita from home depot will have the same build quality as one from a dealer.