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We need to talk about the Finnish flick

  • 19-09-2021 7:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭


    From the reversing thread...can drivers that engage in this behaviour please explain it to me. Especially when there might be a car passing you as you make your turn. Baffles me. Big wide arc for a slow manouevre turn.

    Why swing to the left before turning right and swing right when turning left? You're in a town at low speed, not in a rally car trying to carry as much speed after the turn as possible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    I put it down to habits learned before power steering was common.

    Maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    It's because in another life , they were Panzer tank drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I thought this thread was going to be about a Scandinavian porno.



  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭BobHopeless




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I dunno Shar, the first couple of cars I drove had no power steering and I never did that swing thing. If anything doing so would increase the effort required. The only thing I retain of the pre power steering experience is I almost always get the car moving before applying much steering input. Though I get your point about deep seated habits. I still heel and toe rev match going down the gears because that's how my dad taught me 30 odd years ago(and it was old fashioned then as synchromesh was in pretty much every car).

    The Finnish/Scandinavian flick is a very different thing, where you use weight transfer to break traction controllably to change direction more rapidly. But like Buddy said that's in high speed rallying and the like, not taking the Nissan Leaf to Tesco.

    I'd reckon the swing is just not very good drivers who don't understand how it all works and assume you need to lean into a corner. That - and this is scarily common - they can't judge distance and how wide their car is so they drive like they're maneuvering the Queen Mary and swing an even wider berth going around a corner.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,239 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    It's natural to do it - so much so it's usually done without thinking about it on a bike or motorbike, but it's usually imperceptible. Maybe there's a built in bias in humans to believe it helps while turning in all circumstances?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭shar01


    Cheers. Didn't know what the Finnish flick was 😀

    Yeah, your last paragraph - I was behind a chap making a left turn, he swung out so far he was lucky there was no one coming towards him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I find the answer to all such questions is invariably..... "bad drivers"



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Because they have bombs on their bridges....


    edit: I'm not sure if it is them who have the bombs on bridges but some country in that region does or used to have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,715 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    normally if you are driving a large van etc, you might need to do that to ensure the back wheels clear - but theres no need for it in a car



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Maybe you're thinking of Switzerland? IIRC they have, or had all routes into the country set up so they could be closed in the event of conflict, including wired for detonation.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,698 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    the modern day WRC cars dont tend to do it as traction control, diff controls, and 4wd have almost killed off the art of sliding, as they drive through corners as if on tracks!!

    UNLESS you have an Escort Mk1 or 2...... Them yokes Sliiiiiiiddddeeeeeee 🤣

    But, yeh why the drivers pulling in car spaces at tesco need to pull way right to go left is strange !

    (sh1te drivers)

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Thought this was about the dolphin slaughter...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,646 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The Deep, that's a good film, oh! wait, that's an Icelandic film, sorry.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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