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Prince Andrew civil case

  • 12-08-2021 11:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭


    Whats the story here

    Maybe someone fire up the BBC news link for me

    BBC is saying it's risky to ignore but may be difficult to hand him the papers because he's royalty ?

    Im assuming it's unlikely anything will happen



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,076 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    The man is just Ghastly, horrid individual but this matter will ultimately be settled privately with a dollop of cash and non disclosure agreement.

    The metropolitan police commissioner was interviewed yesterday on LBC, she stated the facts have been examined/reviewed twice with no investigation deemed necessary, she's asked for another look to insure nothing missed but it's clear it won't go anywhere.

    Hell will freeze over before the Queens favorite son is ever criminally investigated by a UK police force.

    It remain a civil case, financially and quietly settled and we'll hear no more about it.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,258 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I agree that a criminal prosecution in the UK is most unlikely.

    As for the civil case, it's a bit late to resolve that with a non-disclosure agreement. The details of the allegations are already out there. If the case is settled people will generally take that as a confirmation of the allegations. The plaintiff might agree not to talk about them any further, but that agreement wouldn't bind anybody else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,076 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Yes I agree all the details are out there but ultimately to quiten down the scandal, minimise further damage etc, a deal will be struck. Prince Andrews position within the Royal family is forever diminished, he'll be retired to a nice country estate etc.

    In reality he has two choices, defend (he can't ignore) case in US courts and likely loose, substantial costs and substantial damages likely also. Or Quitely settle with a non disclosure agreement which includes no admissions of Liability etc.

    I agree damaging information already in the public domain, it's now all about damage limitations.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,702 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Apart from the reputational damage, what's the worst that can happen if he does not lodge a defence and she gets a judgement? Can an award for civil damages handed down by a US court be enforced in the UK?

    I assume he has no assets in the US and any kind of settlement would be seen as an admission of guilt, no matter how it's dressed up. So without a settlement, she will have to proceed to a hearing in court and assuming she wins, how then will she get her damages?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Probably puts his travels to the USA a NO NO... forever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,872 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    he's clever enough! he hosts massive company startup parties and takes a percentage from every company that takes off!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    I imagine the civil case can go any way and it will be blanket ignored by the UK, end of really.


    No doubt Royalty comes under diplomatic immunity of some kind. Andrew may have to stay out of the US or maybe just the state where the case was filed.


    Other than that - something to keep the newspaper filled up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    I was thinking that since its civil, would it be really just the state?

    It would have to be a criminal conviction to really impact him, mind any trip to the US will always have the chance of authorities wanting an interview with him....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,702 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I don't think so. OJ Simpson had a massive judgement awarded against him, in favour of his wife's family. He was never arrested as a result and it did not inhibit his ability to travel from state to state. I believe the judgement was handed down by a state court in Florida so it meant that he could never deal in property there or hold assets of any kind in that state, that was all. A civil judgement only affects your assets, not your personal liberty.

    Someone mentioned diplomatic immunity, that does not apply when you're in your own country. And if Andie wanted to travel to the US under the shield of diplomatic immunity, the UK Foreign Office would first need to provide him with diplomatic accreditation and this would have to be accepted by the US State Department. Not going to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    What I meant was any trips to the USA by him mightn't be as well received over there as he may have being used to before with his royal profile...and surely would be uncomfortable for him from now on with a blemished royal profile,a ordinary holidaymaker visit by him would create unwanted publicity either way.



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