Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all,
Vanilla are planning an update to the site on April 24th (next Wednesday). It is a major PHP8 update which is expected to boost performance across the site. The site will be down from 7pm and it is expected to take about an hour to complete. We appreciate your patience during the update.
Thanks all.

Antonov AN-225

  • 09-08-2021 11:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭


    Have been fascinated by this plane in recent years and would love someone who understands this stuff to explain something to me. I get it, this plane is perfect for lifting huge loads, but what is the real point of it?

    For purely oversized objects I get it, but how many of those could only possibly be carried on the AN-225?

    For everything else, why not split over multiple planes? If AN-225 made really good economic sense there'd be loads of them in the sky surely? Often when I see videos it's just being packed with loads and loads of stuff, not one big thing. That being the case, why does it gets used? Would it not be cheaper to use two planes with half the capacity? I have notifications from FR24 and it seems to be in use so little of the time too.



Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    You answered your own question

     I get it, this plane is perfect for lifting huge loads, but what is the real point of it?

    Just because you don't see it on FR24 does not mean its not flying, it goes into very remote areas where it probably cant be picked up and they may have their system shut down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭g0g


    That would make sense to me if it was a single massive object or few objects that wouldn't fit in any other plane, but that doesn't seem to be the case. e.g. wasn't it moving heaps of Covid PPE or something at some stage last year? Why not break into (e.g.) two loads half that size and use regular planes? It's hard to believe that there is only a market for one of these. The amount of energy if seems to use taking off, the age of it surely means it's really inefficient engines?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    It was designed for one mission. To support the Russian Shuttle and it's boosters etc.

    It was never a commercial project, or even a military project.

    So when that was over, it really has no role. But it exists so might as well use it. It's has found a small niche carrying specialized cargo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I've been involved in a project where it was used just for the "prestige" of it for the most part. It wasn't essential but the the project director convinced the client higher ups it was a requirement. I think they agreed for similar reasons. It was a government(not Irish) funded project so cost wasn't an issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Since it got into Orbit, I'm not sure you could say the Russian Shuttle was done only for "prestige". Well unless you apply it to exploration of Space.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQl2b0-yDQ&ab_channel=adimifus

    The project, fell apart due the breakup of the Soviet Union.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭Suckler


    No, was only meant as a reply to your 'niche/specialised cargo' comment; in that the reason (or main reason) we used it was for the 'prestige' of being able to say it was required/used on the project. We had to do a justification exercise on it etc. it wasn't on a whim but the client did have us emphsise the benefits heavily.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    it is often used to lift heavy equipment where a road/rail/sea journey would be a very tough task. This kind of airlift tends to cost a couple of million dollars a time so it's users have to weigh up the cost versus the potential savings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 869 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    The 124 and 225 have on board cranes and thus don't require ground handling equipment, so they can get heavy cargo in and out of places that can't handle commercial freighters. If you need a large generator, piece of mining equipment or large volume of humanitarian aid brought somewhere especially remote, they're the only game in town really.

    You can also just drive trucks or other vehicles on board too, again very useful for humanitarian aid in the poorest parts of the world.

    Post edited by HTCOne on


  • Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    It flew a turbine to us in Russia a few years back. Landed in South Sakhalin and was driven down over night to us at the LNG plant.



Advertisement