inability of gardai to say "sorry"

silver2020

It comes up time after time. Gardai make an error or do something that was incorrect and then they absolutely refuse to apologise.

It is estimated that over half the civil cases taken against the gardai would not have been taken if a simple apology was made in the first instance.

Yesterday a judge, whilst accepting the apology of the garda commissioner to the court, said he was very surprised that the apology did not extend to those wronged by the gardai. So this will be another civil case and another large payout. (state pays millions every year for wrongful arrest / malicious prosecution and other misdemeanors by a small number gardai - most gardai operate correctly and appropriately)

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-chief-apologies-over-officer-s-remarks-about-legal-profession-1.4626092

mikethecop

https://boards.ie/discussion/2058199880/inability-of-gardai-to-say-sorry

Harris shouldn't have apologized at all imo.

the garda seems to have said what was true giving the ridiculous facts in the link , they came to Ireland to do a online course during a global pandemic ffs

the case was taken because it hurt a solicitors feelings by telling the truth with a judge (former solicitor) agreeing

no harm in pandering less to the leftists out there

you do have a point i agree but this is a bad example to use

They came from Malaysia to Ireland during the pandemic to do an online course.

Is this a pisstake?

HoliyMoliy

Very strange example to use.

jrmb

Apparently it was an on-site course that's currently being delivered online because of Covid. I wouldn't travel myself in that situation, but it's not unusual at the moment. It's one of the many grey areas of English language schools in Ireland.

riffmongous

Next time a Guard wrongs you and refuses to apologise just hit them with

"Sorry

Is all that you can't say

Years gone by and still

Words don't come easily

Like sorry like sorry"

Yakov P. Golyadkin

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117640890#Comment_117640890

Do you see lEfTiStS everywhere you look? Must be frightening.

bnt

There could be legal consequences to saying “sorry”: it could be interpreted as an admission of liability, and thus potentially expensive if a matter ends up in court. Expecting any kind of apologies from anyone in a position of power (including political or financial) is unrealistic.

mikethecop

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641020#Comment_117641020

considering this example if leftist political thinking and what it has cost the irish tax payer so far youd have to be blind not to see it here .

hardly frightening just a sad reality

Dyr

Maybe we should be asking why people are being let into the country from outside the EU for poxy english language courses

Another profession making a lot of money off a scam....

ShatterAlan

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641542#Comment_117641542

Why wouldn't people be allowed into the country to take a language course? What next? You are going to bitch about people outside of the EU being let into the country as tourists? Am I missing something here? If you're allowed to go to India to attend a yoga course/retreat or to Louisiana to learn Cajun cookery or Australia to learn scub-diving and explore the Great Barrier Reef or to England to take an IT course that isn't available in Ireland, then why can't people come to Ireland to take English Language courses?

Yurt2

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117643174#Comment_117643174

The English language school set up in Ireland is a giant immigration sham. The quality is low, the schools aren't accredited, 'students' routinely go on the lamb from their courses to work full-time in the grey economy and many overstay. It's not about education in the least.

bluefinger

He said the legal profession are only interested in money. Unwise to say but absolutely true.

archfi

Well someone is paying for the High Court trips and I can safely bet it's not the women.

Dyr

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117643174#Comment_117643174

Username checks out.

mikethecop

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117643371#Comment_117643371

and some one telling the truth that offended a greedy legal parasite resulted in a expensive and lengthy court case ironically making more money for said greedy legal parasites.

i see this as a negative thing but some people think its a good thing

astrofool

While it might be nice for someone to say sorry about something, people should learn to move on with things, someone saying sorry (especially if they don't mean it anyway) won't change what happened in the first place.

It's an odd thing for people to cling to and turns any situation into a conflict with neither side wanting to back down "They didn't even say sorry".

padd b1975

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641015#Comment_117641015

Ronan Keating style?

Oranage2

Gardai should have shut his mouth and done his job, full attempt at intimidation.

And it's not these girls fault, they were given visas by an Irish visa authority to study here only to arrive and be refused.

tayto lover

Nail on head by that Garda.

Potential-Monke

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647322#Comment_117647322

Ah, yeah it is. Common sense should have dictated not to travel (in December 2020) to learn the english language during the middle of a fuppin pandemic!! I couldn't drive 20 minutes into a retail park to do a 3 hour 1 day a week 10 week course, but these heroes seem to think travelling to another country is ok?!

The article doesn't go into enough detail though. Were they aware it was online only before they travelled?

Yurt2

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647322#Comment_117647322

Malaysian nationals are visa-free on arrival. Visa-free nationals such as this usually travel and enter on visitor permits (your basic 90 day or whatever stamp on the passport) and transfer to a student visa once in Ireland.

Garda didn't cover himself in glory but these girls took the risk in traveling.

Oranage2

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117654568#Comment_117654568

Easy for this detective to try and prevent the course of justice when it involves two young foreign females, where was detective Hardman last week when there were 100s causing offences at the funerals?

Green Peter

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117654598#Comment_117654598

He was dead right in what he said, it's a pity more wouldn't call it like it is. I guess that cop is now expected to be responsible for any problem you have with AGS. Legal society will never let down their own and they know only too well what was said hit the nail on the head. To much political correctness ruining this country.

Oranage2

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117654613#Comment_117654613

Last time I checked Ireland is a free country, So if a gardai tells a rape victim not to press charges because the priest is elderly this fine in your opinion?

Despite what many of the 'members' believe, they aren't judge, jury or executioner. They're paid to do their job(which many do poorly) and they should stick to their job without intimidation and trying to prevent justice

Green Peter

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117654640#Comment_117654640

I sense a chip on both shoulders

NSAman

Who is paying for the High Court case?

that explains it all IMHO