Restoration raising roof by 10 feet

Dempo1

Hi,

I've a question regarding increasing the height of an existing 70"s style bungalow.

An enormous restoration has commenced right beside my single story cottage. The project is essentially trippling the size of the bungalow, double the size in length and l Shape extensions to the rear. This I'm delighted to see as it was a pretty grim property albeit lived in throughout my 20 years in the my own cottage.

My concern is the height of the new roof which I estimate is being risen by at least 10 feet, I assume to utilise a second floor for bedrooms.

There was no planning notice ever displayed, I assume because it was an existing structure, but I thought there was restrictions or permissions required to raise a roof whatever the amount. I say this because I replaced my own roof 15 years ago, sought professional advice about raising the height and was told in no uncertain terms, this is not permitted.

The new build is across from me, there will be a small amount of privacy lost.

Thoughts??

mickdw

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi,

I've a question regarding increasing the height of an existing 70"s style bungalow.

An enormous restoration has commenced right beside my single story cottage. The project is essentially trippling the size of the bungalow, double the size in length and l Shape extensions to the rear. This I'm delighted to see as it was a pretty grim property albeit lived in throughout my 20 years in the my own cottage.

My concern is the height of the new roof which I estimate is being risen by at least 10 feet, I assume to utilise a second floor for bedrooms.

There was no planning notice ever displayed, I assume because it was an existing structure, but I thought there was restrictions or permissions required to raise a roof whatever the amount. I say this because I replaced my own roof 15 years ago, sought professional advice about raising the height and was told in no uncertain terms, this is not permitted.

The new build is across from me, there will be a small amount of privacy lost.

Thoughts??

Planning required. They are chancing their arm.

Dempo1

mickdw wrote: »

Planning required. They are chancing their arm.

I genuinely don't want to interfere with any restoration but have to say I am alarmed at height of the roof, I sensed a problem when the existing block work from old bungalow 10 feet below the roof trusses being currently installed. The new block work on extension also higher than existing bungalow. I'm quite rural, all nearest houses are single story bungalows.

muffler

If the house is being extended in length then that requires PP. Extending to the rear would also require PP when adding the floor area to that of the extension to the side assuming a modest size bungalow. Increasing the height of the roof also requires PP.

As its located in a rural area then its highly unlikely the planners would be aware of it unless someone lodged a complaint. Up to yourself really

Dempo1

muffler wrote: »

If the house is being extended in length then that requires PP. Extending to the rear would also require PP when adding the floor area to that of the extension to the side assuming a modest size bungalow. Increasing the height of the roof also requires PP.

As its located in a rural area then its highly unlikely the planners would be aware of it unless someone lodged a complaint. Up to yourself really

Thank you, I went onto the planning checker for out local authority and there's absolutely no recent planning applications either in the name of the owner (whom I know but not personally) or in the location. Ironically I found previous applications for the named person for another property they once owned but sold across the road) so my search pretty thouragh.

I've since spoken to other neighbours discreetly and whilst we agree it's good to see a restoration, this project enormous and the roof height dramatically altered upwards by 10 feet. The extension is an L shaped attached to the existing smaller building. At a minimum the original house length has doubled if not more. The area is actually an environmentally protected area which is all the more astonishing.

I'll have to think about it but I feel I'm not the only person locally taken aback by what is being built.

Thanks for the feed back, appreciated

ebbsy

Make a phone call.

Dempo1

ebbsy wrote: »

Make a phone call.

It's heading that way, I'd post a photo only would not want to identify the property or location for obvious reasons

I know you said you did a search of the planning database for your coco but it sounds like you did a text only search

Check to see if there is a map version as the text you searched under may not necessarily match what's on the planning application (if there is one) for any number of reasons

muffler

ebbsy wrote: »

Make a phone call.

No, there;s a form that must be completed.

Deleted User wrote: »

Check to see if there is a map version

Yeah, most if not all LA's have a map search facility. That combined with the index search should throw up any relevant applications.

Dempo1

muffler wrote: »

No, there;s a form that must be completed.


Yeah, most if not all LA's have a map search facility. That combined with the index search should throw up any relevant applications.

The area (town land) quite specific, showing my own house also and all and planning applications since 1995, actually very few so very easy to search. The LA main Website is just appalling, nothing obvious to report a concern etc,

muffler

Have a look for or search "planning enforcement". Thats the section of the planning dept that deals with unauthorized development and where you lodge your written complaint. All complaints are protected so no one will ever know who made it.

Dempo1

muffler wrote: »

Have a look for or search "planning enforcement". Thats the section of the planning dept that deals with unauthorized development and where you lodge your written complaint. All complaints are protected so no one will ever know who made it.

I certainly will, thank you for that

Dempo1

Just a quick update, things have progressed on their own, more direct neighbours ( beside) have been on the war path, and another neighbour across the road has had their entire view of the mountains blocked. Group discussion took place on the site yesterday, photographs taken, heated exchanges, I'm biting my lip but I sense a LA vist during the week. I hadn't noticed but along with the restoration, a new block shed erected with the gable end literally inches from a side road, it's directly across from a neighbors main entrance, not only too close to road but is also blocking views.

I've heard similar stories over the years, never thought it would happen right across from me.

muffler

Dempo1 wrote: »

but is also blocking views.

On that issue it should be noted that no one has the right to a view.

Planners however will do their best to accommodate everyone by allowing existing views to be retained if possible but in this particular case it doesn't look good - no pun intended.

Dempo1

muffler wrote: »

On that issue it should be noted that no one has the right to a view.

Planners however will do their best to accommodate everyone by allowing existing views to be retained if possible but in this particular case it doesn't look good - no pun intended.

Oddly enough, around 16 years ago, another neighbour up much higher on the mountain had to put a flag pole up on his site for 6 months as part of planning process, I assumed this was something to do with spoiling, restricting views?? I should stress we're in an environmentally protected location.

muffler

Yes flags / poles to indicate the ridge height of a proposed house for example are requested sometimes from the planners in order to assess the impact on the area especially areas of high amenity. Not so much about blocking views though.

Where you would see a good planner trying to help people is when they get an objection in to a planning application where the proposal would block a view from
an existing house. They might request the applicant (where possible) to move the location of the proposed house within the boundaries thus keeping everyone happy .. or at least partly happy.

Dempo1

muffler wrote: »

Yes flags / poles to indicate the ridge height of a proposed house for example are requested sometimes from the planners in order to assess the impact on the area especially areas of high amenity. Not so much about blocking views though.

Where you would see a good planner trying to help people is when they get an objection in to a planning application where the proposal would block a view from
an existing house. They might request the applicant (where possible) to move the location of the proposed house within the boundaries thus keeping everyone happy .. or at least partly happy.

Ah, I see now, always wondered what the flag pole was for, thanks, with regard to the project across from me, there's universal concerns over lack of any planning and the raised roof. I'm just amazed the person didn't make an effort, he rented out the property for years, it's been empty a year so not as of the restoration that urgent and property being retained (or so we are being told)