Do I need new irons

ecdi · 19-06-2021 9:08am #1

Hi. I'm off 27 at the moment but I don't play much atall
I have a set of Wilson irons that I got years ago, want to play more and improve
Should I invest in a decent set of irons, or will they make any difference?
Thanks

PokeHerKing · 19-06-2021 9:14am

Better equipment definitely makes a difference. If you want new irons, get new irons. Long as you're not taking food out of your kids mouth for them :pac:

OEP · 19-06-2021 10:14am

Get lessons first

prawnsambo · 19-06-2021 12:48pm

ecdi wrote: »

Hi. I'm off 27 at the moment but I don't play much atall
I have a set of Wilson irons that I got years ago, want to play more and improve
Should I invest in a decent set of irons, or will they make any difference?
Thanks

Off 27 and not playing much would indicate no. If you start playing more and get better, then maybe, but lessons should probably be your first investment. If your irons are the ones I'm thinking of, they're beginners clubs and should be ok for the moment. The only caveat to this is if you're taller than average - perhaps over six feet tall, then they'll probably be a tad short for you.

DuckSlice · 19-06-2021 7:16pm

Probably nothing wrong with them, if they are quite old then maybe freshen them up with new grips!

fourmations · 22-06-2021 9:28am

hi all

surely the answer to the question depends on the irons in question?
what model are they?

are they "improver" cavity backs?
they could be blades for all we know

regards

OEP · 22-06-2021 10:15am

If you're off 27 and not playing much at all, your swing can't be in good shape. I assume they're not blades if they were bought a few years ago. Improver irons aren't going to make much difference if you can't swing the club

ecdi · 22-06-2021 3:40pm

OEP wrote: »

If you're off 27 and not playing much at all, your swing can't be in good shape. I assume they're not blades if they were bought a few years ago. Improver irons aren't going to make much difference if you can't swing the club

My swing is very good actually.

OEP · 22-06-2021 3:47pm

ecdi wrote: »

My swing is very good actually.

Why are you off 27 then?

ecdi · 22-06-2021 4:35pm

OEP wrote: »

Why are you off 27 then?

Putting...

OEP · 22-06-2021 4:38pm

ecdi wrote: »

Putting...

Fair enough. If you're reasonably good at hitting your iron shots then new irons might make a difference, but that all depends and what your current ones are like. If they're already the "game improvement" style irons, then you're not going to notice much of a difference changing them. I got my handicap down to 12 with irons that were about 10 years old when I got them, and then kept them for nearly another 10 years. I bought new ones at that point.

If putting has you off 27, get a putting lesson!

DuckSlice · 22-06-2021 4:58pm

ecdi wrote: »

Putting...

New irons will improve your putting by at least 10 putts a round.

ecdi · 22-06-2021 5:46pm

OEP wrote: »

Fair enough. If you're reasonably good at hitting your iron shots then new irons might make a difference, but that all depends and what your current ones are like. If they're already the "game improvement" style irons, then you're not going to notice much of a difference changing them. I got my handicap down to 12 with irons that were about 10 years old when I got them, and then kept them for nearly another 10 years. I bought new ones at that point.

If putting has you off 27, get a putting lesson!

Why did u buy new ones?

Timing belt · 22-06-2021 5:50pm

ecdi wrote: »

Putting...

Maybe try using a putter instead of an Iron for putting

OEP · 22-06-2021 6:12pm

ecdi wrote: »

Why did u buy new ones?

Because they were 20 year old irons, I was off 12 and wanted to get lower and felt new ones would help. They were also regular shafts and I needed stiff

ecdi · 22-06-2021 6:23pm

OEP wrote: »

Because they were 20 year old irons, I was off 12 and wanted to get lower and felt new ones would help. They were also regular shafts and I needed stiff

Did u get a lower with new irons?

OEP · 22-06-2021 6:25pm

ecdi wrote: »

Did u get a lower with new irons?

I'm assuming you're just trolling at this stage but yes I did. Along with lots of putting and short game practice and some lessons

ecdi · 22-06-2021 6:27pm

OEP wrote: »

I'm assuming you're just trolling at this stage but yes I did. Along with lots of putting and short game practice and some lessons

No I'm not trolling. What your h/c go down to.
Did the irons play much of a part in it?

OEP · 22-06-2021 6:35pm

They did play a part in it. Get new irons

ecdi · 22-06-2021 6:38pm

OEP wrote: »

They did play a part in it. Get new irons

Ok

irish bloke · 22-06-2021 8:44pm

@ OP. If you have a good swing and are off 27 because of putting you must be an awful putter. Get that fixed is what you need to do

ecdi · 22-06-2021 11:29pm

irish bloke wrote: »

@ OP. If you have a good swing and are off 27 because of putting you must be an awful putter. Get that fixed is what you need to do

Ok good advice thanks very much

PokeHerKing · 23-06-2021 8:26am

Why do people get so evangelical about new clubs.

OP the only things you should be considering before buying new clubs is your bank balance and your wife.

We don't need much in life but most of us work hard to buy stuff we want

If you want them and can afford them then get them, don't ask strangers for permission.

DuckSlice · 23-06-2021 8:39am

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Why do people get so evangelical about new clubs.

OP the only things you should be considering before buying new clubs is your bank balance and your wife.

We don't need much in life but most of us work hard to buy stuff we want

If you want them and can afford them then get them, don't ask strangers for permission.

They are asking if they would help, not for permission. And if their putting is the problem then why buy irons?

PokeHerKing · 23-06-2021 8:54am

DuckSlice wrote: »

They are asking if they would help, not for permission. And if their putting is the problem then why buy irons?

And the simple answer is yes, a new set of irons will help. How much or how little is anyone's guess.

DuckSlice · 23-06-2021 9:13am

DuckSlice wrote: »

New irons will improve your putting by at least 10 putts a round.

PokeHerKing wrote: »

And the simple answer is yes, a new set of irons will help. How much or how little is anyone's guess.

10 putts a round like I said earlier!

thecomedian · 23-06-2021 9:37am

What’s the model/type of Wilson irons that you have?

PokeHerKing · 23-06-2021 9:50am

DuckSlice wrote: »

10 putts a round like I said earlier!

Imagine if a new iron improved your approach play, which eased your putting woes.

We're through the looking glass now like.

DuckSlice · 23-06-2021 10:49am

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Imagine if a new iron improved your approach play, which eased your putting woes.

We're through the looking glass now like.

The stats say the more GIR the more putts, so the more they are on the green the worse they will be.

We don't know enough info really, and the OP seems reluctant to offer anything significant to go off other than they have a great swing and their putting is terrible.

ecdi · 24-06-2021 9:45am

I'm playing with Wilson Fatshaft.

Not asking for permission

If I couldn't afford them I wouldn't be asking but I'm not going to spend €900+ for the sake of it.

I was asking the opinion of fellow golfers if new irons would make a difference on my approach play.
Amazing how some* posters get so preachy and hot under the collor, they need to relax

To the smart Alec answers, good one..

DuckSlice · 24-06-2021 10:44am

ecdi wrote: »

I'm playing with Wilson Fatshaft.

Not asking for permission

If I couldn't afford them I wouldn't be asking but I'm not going to spend €900+ for the sake of it.

I was asking the opinion of fellow golfers if new irons would make a difference on my approach play.
Amazing how some* posters get so preachy and hot under the collor, they need to relax

To the smart Alec answers, good one..

Apologies if I was preachy!

Played with Fatshafts for years, they are a great iron. I got down to 15 with them but I wasn't as serious back then. If I pick them up now they fell quite heavy and clunky.

I got new irons and I'm down to 8 now but I would say that is more to do with practice and playing regularly than the irons but they were a factor. there is definitely better irons out there than them, and you could go second hand to save cash. If you are going new and getting fitted then you should see an improvement.

coillcam · 24-06-2021 1:00pm

ecdi wrote: »

I'm playing with Wilson Fatshaft.

Not asking for permission

If I couldn't afford them I wouldn't be asking but I'm not going to spend €900+ for the sake of it.

I was asking the opinion of fellow golfers if new irons would make a difference on my approach play.
Amazing how some* posters get so preachy and hot under the collor, they need to relax

To the smart Alec answers, good one..

It's absolutely no harm in getting newer clubs and they have plenty of technology built in to help all handicaps. Go for 2nd hand on a set of irons and used the saved cash for lessons. That's what I did last year and I can honestly say the money spent on lessons was well worth it. The local pro is a gent and through the lessons I've built up a great relationship with him. He's gone out of his way to spend a few mins giving me some tips on the range when he spotted me practicing on numerous occasions. Discounted some clubs and a driver fitting also. Essentially the money spent on a package of lessons has come right back to me in discounts and some extra bits. I think this is often ignored when we think of paying €30-40 for a lesson.

I feel you might get the best value out of a 2nd hand set of game improvement irons. An 8 hc'er I played with recently shot +1 gross using game improvement irons so they're not just for beginners or higher hc's. The Mizuno JPX 919 hot metal irons can be had for under €500 and are a good recent example. They are highly regarded by most equipment reviewers/pros and hit long with plenty of forgiveness. I think psychologically it helps hitting a set of irons that you know go a little longer and would make you more comfortable with approach shots.

Three sets on adverts at the moment: https://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/q_hot+metal+919/. The likes of golf style, deise golf and golf studio all get similar sets traded in regularly so you'd have plenty of options other than Mizuno. Go to range/studio with a computer and hit some demo clubs if you prefer to get hands on.

Any improvement in my play has been down to: Lessons to fix fundamental problems (slices and chunks) then plenty of practice. You can add the better clubs before or after tbh.

Do I need new irons

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