The Great Ballinlough Arborcide of 2021

cantalach

On the right, two beautiful mature trees in the park behind my house as they were at 2:10pm this afternoon. On the left, the same scene three hours later after a visit by a crew contracted to the City Council.

Does anyone have know what the f*** Cork City Council has against trees?

Oafley Jones

Ash trees?

whisky_galore

I was expecting something like amazonian rainforest destruction scale.


Two trees.

beer enigma

Chainsaws been going around Ballinlough for weeks, loads of mature trees desecrated.

No idea why they went for those, it's a disgrace

Oafley Jones

Again, are they ash trees?

iwillhtfu

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Again, are they ash trees?

Quite clearly one of them isn't.

I'd say the rest of the tall one will come down yet, probably ran out of time today.

cantalach

whisky_galore wrote: »

I was expecting something like amazonian rainforest destruction scale.

Two trees.

I can post photos of all of them if you like but it might take a while.

cantalach

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Again, are they ash trees?

I've seen four different varieties of trees affected, a mix of evergreen and deciduous.

the beer revolu

Might this not be considered maintenance? Risk management?
I'm no tree expert.

Imagine the outrage if a poorly maintained tree on public land killed someone or destroyed a home!

Perhaps someone who does know about tree management might comment?

whisky_galore

cantalach wrote: »

I can post photos of all of them if you like but it might take a while.

I've seen a lot more felled trees on the so called blackrock "green" way.

cantalach

whisky_galore wrote: »

I've seen a lot more felled trees on the so called blackrock "green" way.

Sorry, not following your point. Does the fact that there are more felled trees on the greenway mean that we can't bemoan the felling of trees elsewhere?

the beer revolu

cantalach wrote: »

Sorry, not following your point. Does the fact that there are more felled trees on the greenway mean that we can't bemoan the felling of trees elsewhere?

Felled?
Your pic doesn't show felled trees.

cantalach

the beer revolu wrote: »

Felled?
Your pic doesn't show felled trees.

Yeah, sorry, the Whiskey guy said felled. I meant to say butchered. My bad. Thanks.

cantalach

the beer revolu wrote: »

Might this not be considered maintenance? Risk management?
I'm no tree expert.

Imagine the outrage if a poorly maintained tree on public land killed someone or destroyed a home!

Perhaps someone who does know about tree management might comment?

I guess that is the most likely explanation. But the fact that they're butchering small evergreens (as in the picture) suggests otherwise.

the beer revolu

cantalach wrote: »

I guess that is the most likely explanation. But the fact that they're butchering small evergreens (as in the picture) suggests otherwise.

Honestly, I wouldn't know.
But I do know that trees require pruning and management. Sometimes trees need to be felled for safety reasons or for the benefit of other trees. No one likes to see trees felled but there is often a valid reason.

Likewise people don't like to see trees heavily pruned.

Perhaps these trees have been needlessly butchered or perhaps it was necessary maintenance. I'm not qualified to say.
Are you? Genuine question, I'm not having a go.

I can't help feeling that the authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

From your pic it looks like those two trees were far too close to each other. One of them probably had to go.

cantalach

the beer revolu wrote: »

Honestly, I wouldn't know.
But I do know that trees require pruning and management. Sometimes trees need to be felled for safety reasons or for the benefit of other trees. No one likes to see trees felled but there is often a valid reason.

Likewise people don't like to see trees heavily pruned.

Perhaps these trees have been needlessly butchered or perhaps it was necessary maintenance. I'm not qualified to say.
Are you? Genuine question, I'm not having a go.

I can't help feeling that the authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

From your pic it looks like those two trees were far too close to each other. One of them probably had to go.

I'll mail one of the councillors and try to figure out what happened.

okedoke

cantalach wrote: »

I'll mail one of the councillors and try to figure out what happened.

Which park in ballinlough is it ?

beer enigma

whisky_galore wrote: »

I've seen a lot more felled trees on the so called blackrock "green" way.

Very true.....a green way thet cuts down all teh trees. Gotta love the irony:rolleyes:

notAMember

beer enigma wrote: »

Very true.....a green way thet cuts down all teh trees. Gotta love the irony:rolleyes:

All the trees?

The trees they took down were ones that were on the route of the new wider path. Those trees had naturally reseeded themselves, they were where the new path is now. That path has more than doubled in width, to allow more people to use it.


Of course it's a shame they had to do it, but the tree removal wasn't indiscriminate. I use that greenway a good bit and saw the landscapers spent a lot of time in advance identifying the specific trees to come out. They chose trees that were either in the path route or diseased / damaged.

Then they were removed.

There was another exercise later to clear back all the undergrowth (mostly brambles) that was also in the area of the new path with tractors and long-arm ditch cutting machines. That was a more indiscriminate, and I wasn't impressed at how it was done in bird fledgling season tbh.


They have started putting in bat boxes, bee hotels and bird boxes, which imho, are tokenism. There was a good bat, bird and bee population there, wildlife doesn't need human-made boxes if there is a natural habitat available.


What park is that in Ballinlough?