Things that were always thus but people think are new.

the beer revolu

Americanisms and young women speaking in American accents. Americanisms have been coming and going for ever. I first noticed the accent thing about 25 years ago.

PC gone mad! People have been moaning about this for as long as I can remember. Personholes being spoken about in the 80s.

Welfare abuse. Years ago, it was the scourge of the single mothers, now its immigrants and feral scum. We always have and always will fixate on perceived abuse of the system and identity targets for vilification.

The youth have no fear of the law or respect for their parents. In my day we'd get a clip around the ear and cop op.
Again, this was trotted out by people 30 years ago and more.

Any more things that people seem to think are brand new phenomena for some reason?

HeidiHeidi

But but but...... the 80's and 90's were only the other day

Weren't they???

Mr. CooL ICE

Complaints about the younger generation have been going on... for generations

zanador

Sex and drugs

L1011

'invention X will kill teenagers minds because it'll stop them doing Y'. Y was reading for a long time; but the invention of cheap mass media printing caused uproar about teenagers reading which would stop them doing something else, probably playing outside.

RiderOnTheStorm

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, about 400BC

the beer revolu

Oh, video gaming is corrupting the youth.
Before games it was "video nasties", before that it was the television, the telephone and books!

TheValeyard

the beer revolu wrote: »

Oh, video gaming is corrupting the youth.
Before games it was "video nasties", before that it was the television, the telephone and books!

Ah yes The Catcher in the Rye.

Warped the mind of fragile teens

dxhound2005

Immigration. There would be nobody in Ireland if it wasn't for immigration.

Duckworth_Luas

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, about 400BC

“The problem with internet quotes is that you cannot always depend on their accuracy.”

― Abraham Lincoln 1864

silliussoddius

Nostalgia was always better in the past.

Say Your Number

Going by modern internet discourse, you'd swear censorship was an entirely new concept, a while ago RTE had a documentary on how an innocuous song like Seven Drunken Nights was banned in the sixties, also this instrumental track was banned in 1959 because they thought the distorted guitars would cause fights in pubs, what kind of precious snowflakes were around at that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4

M.T. Cranium

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

“The problem with internet quotes is that you cannot always depend on their accuracy.”

― Abraham Lincoln 1864

People often think of Lincoln as an early internet realist but they perhaps did not hear that Jesus said "Blessed are the off-line, for they shall inherit plenty of time to get things done."

Hande hoche!

Video calls.

crooked cockney villain

the beer revolu wrote: »

Oh, video gaming is corrupting the youth.
Before games it was "video nasties", before that it was the television, the telephone and books!

I think in 2021 it would be Snapchat, Tik Tok and professional Youtubers are the current youth corrupters.

It will be something else in three years when the aforementioned apps are regarded as something your grandad uses, just as Facebook became.

We seem to have moved away from individuals being blamed as bad role models for the youth (Conor McGregor, Gazza, Liam Gallagher)

the beer revolu

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Video calls.

That's an odd one.
Past depictions of the future always showed "video phones". It seemed like the holy grail of future technology. One imagined a great unveiling moment of the technology and forever more people would look at each other whole communicating remotely.

The reality was that the technology crept in with a murmur and most people don't bother using it much.

Somewhat ot, but...

Hande hoche!

the beer revolu wrote: »

That's an odd one.
Past depictions of the future always showed "video phones". It seemed like the holy grail of future technology. One imagined a great unveiling moment of the technology and forever more people would look at each other whole communicating remotely.

The reality was that the technology crept in with a murmur and most people don't bother using it much.

Somewhat ot, but...

Yeah its one where the take up has been low. In theory it's been commercially available for about half a century now but very little use. Even in media depiction as you say, there is a slant towards future rather than present use.

McGinniesta

**** still causes blindness.

I still **** and haven't gone blind yet. I'm 44. Take that granny.

dotsman

McGinniesta wrote: »

**** still causes blindness.

I still **** and haven't gone blind yet. I'm 44. Take that granny.

Um, what exactly are you "giving" your Granny while ****?

Andrewf20

Affordability of housing. I'd say ever since around the early noughties buying a house on a single income was very hard near any city. Worse now but not by a large margin.

the beer revolu

the beer revolu wrote: »

Americanisms and young women speaking in American accents. Americanisms have been coming and going for ever. I first noticed the accent thing about 25 years ago.

PC gone mad! People have been moaning about this for as long as I can remember. Personholes being spoken about in the 80s.

Welfare abuse. Years ago, it was the scourge of the single mothers, now its immigrants and feral scum. We always have and always will fixate on perceived abuse of the system and identity targets for vilification.

The youth have no fear of the law or respect for their parents. In my day we'd get a clip around the ear and cop op.
Again, this was trotted out by people 30 years ago and more.

Any more things that people seem to think are brand new phenomena for some reason?

People seem to think Christmas is more consumerist than ever but I’ve heard that since I was young.

crooked cockney villain

the beer revolu wrote: »

That's an odd one.
Past depictions of the future always showed "video phones". It seemed like the holy grail of future technology. One imagined a great unveiling moment of the technology and forever more people would look at each other whole communicating remotely.

The reality was that the technology crept in with a murmur and most people don't bother using it much.

Somewhat ot, but...

We have reached peak technology. There is nothing left of practical use to invent/ market.

Innovation for the sake of innovation has been tried and has failed to take off- remember 3D TV's, and TV's that were sort of curved. Pointless tech that was innovation for innovation sake that nobody but tech nerds bought in to. Alexa is the same, niche nonsense for tech nerds.

I have the misfortune of occasionally hearing Tech Tuesday on Matt Cooper's show where some lad spends 15 minutes reviewing absolute scutter new inventions that remind me of Father Ted's pal who was buying fax machines for coffins, fake arms and remote controlled wheelchairs.

the beer revolu

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

We have reached peak technology. There is nothing left of practical use to invent/ market.
.

Replicaters!

I'm sure people said the same thing for centuries. I think it's an age thing. I'm guessing you are in your 40s. Anything invented after you are forty is just rubbish for the sake of rubbish!

crooked cockney villain

the beer revolu wrote: »

I'm sure people said the same thing for centuries. I think it's an age thing. I'm guessing you are in your 40s. Anything invented after you are forty is just rubbish for the sake of rubbish!

There's simply nothing practical left to invent. In terms of widespread public buy in in Ireland

1940's to 60's- electricity, cookers, fridges
60's- TV's, car ownership increasing
70's to 80's- home telephone
80's- VCR, microwaves, CD plyers
90's to 2000's- multichannel TV, mobiles, DVD, home PC's/ internet access, digital music players

In the last circa 25 years the only significant invention to take up universal public adoption has been the internet, the smart phone and portable digital music players.

Between 1960 and the late 80's the average Irish home probably acquired itself eight new pieces of tech.

5 years ago it was claimed that driverless cars would be widespread by 2021. A year or so ago one of the main CEO's conceded it probably wouldn't be feasible within our lifetimes.

riclad

In the 80s it was video nastys, in the 50s comic books, rock n roll, I think it's social media now corrupting youth,
In the 90s it was violent video games.
Every generation thinks young people are lazy or reckless
It's an eternal cycle.
Music TV was better in my day

SunnySundays

Wet pubs.....they've long been calls wet pubs within the industry

Feisar

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, about 400BC

Was just going to say didn’t some lad in Rome give out about kids

RulesOfNature

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

But but but...... the 80's and 90's were only the other day

Weren't they???

2000 was 21 years ago. How does that make u feel?

breezy1985

riclad wrote: »

In the 80s it was video nastys, in the 50s comic books, rock n roll, I think it's social media now corrupting youth,
In the 90s it was violent video games.
Every generation thinks young people are lazy or reckless
It's an eternal cycle.
Music TV was better in my day

The only ones got it right was people in the late 20s talking about that Hitler fella corrupting the youth

riclad

i think genderfluid is just another name for bisexual,
eg someone who is attracted to men or women

video phones are now iphones with facetime or other video messaging apps.
games on phones get better all the time,
every few years theres a new app thats popular with teens,
eg instagram, tik tok,
what will be the next fortnite ?

it seems self driving cars are always a few years away.

someone needs to invent a phone with a dock tv mode
eg 200 euro ,plugs into a dock, plays 3d games on a tv
with 2 controllers.
eg like a switch plays pc or android games at 1080p.

i know valve is working on a switch like device for pc games.
the technology is there ,
it takes someone to put it together.

volchitsa

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, about 400BC

Yeah and look how that worked out for them.

BattleCorp

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Socrates, about 400BC

:rolleyes:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

Housing is expensive

Youve to work your way up to the nice jobs

The world isnt particularly your friend, as a rule

volchitsa

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People seem to think Christmas is more consumerist than ever but I’ve heard that since I was young.

I think Christmas has been for a long time (though my parents’ generation got like a single orange or something) but what’s definitely changed since I was a child is Halloween - we only ever had at best a sheet to dress up as a ghost and the neighbours gave us fruits and nuts, almost never sweets. Though we did used to bake apple tart with a coin in it which was better fun than sweets and chocolates TBF.

Blud

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

There's simply nothing practical left to invent. In terms of widespread public buy in in Ireland

1940's to 60's- electricity, cookers, fridges
60's- TV's, car ownership increasing
70's to 80's- home telephone
80's- VCR, microwaves, CD plyers
90's to 2000's- multichannel TV, mobiles, DVD, home PC's/ internet access, digital music players

In the last circa 25 years the only significant invention to take up universal public adoption has been the internet, the smart phone and portable digital music players.

Between 1960 and the late 80's the average Irish home probably acquired itself eight new pieces of tech.

5 years ago it was claimed that driverless cars would be widespread by 2021. A year or so ago one of the main CEO's conceded it probably wouldn't be feasible within our lifetimes.

Which CEO said that?

There are driverless cars running right now as taxis between McCarron and downtown Vegas. With the tech owned by an Irish company.

BattleCorp

Blud wrote: »

Which CEO said that?

There are driverless cars running right now as taxis between McCarron and downtown Vegas. With the tech owned by an Irish company.

I've seen plenty of driverless cars around Mountain View in California when I was there two years ago.

Citroen2cv

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

“The problem with internet quotes is that you cannot always depend on their accuracy.”

― Abraham Lincoln 1864

I think you will find Abe said that in 1867.

BattleCorp

Citroen2cv wrote: »

I think you will find Abe said that in 1867.

I've the YouTube footage of it here somewhere. Give me a chance to look for it.

Church on Tuesday

the beer revolu wrote: »

Oh, video gaming is corrupting the youth.
Before games it was "video nasties", before that it was the television, the telephone and books!

Loads of people here, who really should know better, still think this.

Not everyone can afford to buy a house where they want to live.

Stihl waters

McGinniesta wrote: »

**** still causes blindness.

I still **** and haven't gone blind yet. I'm 44. Take that granny.

*Pictures granny waiting patiently with her hands out