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registering rights of way

  • 28-05-2021 9:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭


    I know rights of way have to be registered by Nov of this year, has anyone here done this? Can you do it without solicitor?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭sandman30


    I know rights of way have to be registered by Nov of this year, has anyone here done this? Can you do it without solicitor?

    A neighbour registered a right of way across our land. He was getting a bank loan secured on the land, so the bank insisted on it. Our solicitor insisted on an engineer marking the route, so he had to pay his own solicitor, our solicitor and an engineer.

    It may be possible to do without a solicitor, but you need to swear an affidavit, so need either a commissioner for oaths or solicitor for that. I would strongly recommend using a solicitor to avoid problems down the line.

    You won't lose the right of way if it's not register we by November, it just becomes more expensive and difficult to register as you will need a court order to register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Parents have asked me to register a right of way, under the assumption it was relatively easy and could be done online? But I'm guessing its a bit more involved than that, can't seem to find much info in whats involved though.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭cjpm


    There’s a massive can of worms that will be opened once they must be all registered around the country. Last time it was due to happen the deadline was extended. Could happen again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,218 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    What is the best way to find out if there are rights of way on your land?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    What is the best way to find out if there are rights of way on your land?

    Go onto land direct. Enter in your folio number and it'll show you. You might have to pay a €5 fee to get access.

    I registered a right of way for land last year. You need an engineer and a solicitor to do it. I don't think there is any other way. The engineer cost me €477 and the solicitor was nearly the same


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Go onto land direct. Enter in your folio number and it'll show you. You might have to pay a €5 fee to get access.

    I registered a right of way for land last year. You need an engineer and a solicitor to do it. I don't think there is any other way. The engineer cost me €477 and the solicitor was nearly the same

    How did you go about it David?

    I tho k I might need to do it, need to check on land direct.
    But did you just say it to the neighbour that you were registering a right of way? What did they have to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭leoch


    Who has to register it the land owner or the person who uses it and can one person register it without the other person knowing or do both need to sign off on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Go onto land direct. Enter in your folio number and it'll show you. You might have to pay a €5 fee to get access.

    I registered a right of way for land last year. You need an engineer and a solicitor to do it. I don't think there is any other way. The engineer cost me €477 and the solicitor was nearly the same

    If there are rights of way already marked on that website is that set in stone and you don't need to register that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    If there are rights of way already marked on that website is that set in stone and you don't need to register that?

    AFAIK if it appears on the map it's registered already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    leoch wrote: »
    Who has to register it the land owner or the person who uses it and can one person register it without the other person knowing or do both need to sign off on it

    If you need the right of way you need to register it. You also have to get a signed letter of permission from the landowner that is witnessed by someone who has no connection to your family or the landowners. You can't register a right of way without that letter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    How did you go about it David?

    I tho k I might need to do it, need to check on land direct.
    But did you just say it to the neighbour that you were registering a right of way? What did they have to do?

    Go onto land direct and see if there is a registered right of way. If not talk to your neighbour. As I said in the post above me. You need a letter to say your neighbour has no issue and include the folio number. Both of you have to sign it and it has to be witnessed and dated. An engineer has to draw the lines on the map and your solicitor has to register it with your local land registry office. It can take six months from the time it is handed into the land registry to appearing on a map. Luckily I have a very good relationship with my neighbour. If I didn't I wouldn't have been able to get a right of way in such a short time frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭minerleague


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    If you need the right of way you need to register it. You also have to get a signed letter of permission from the landowner that is witnessed by someone who has no connection to your family or the landowners. You can't register a right of way without that letter.

    Thanks for all replies, being putting it off, but looks like need to involve solicitors etc. Can see the need to get them registered as when older generation not around anymore disputes could arise after. Mine are obvious and used regularly so not expecting any problems that way just hate paying " professionals " if it could be done DIY :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    If you need the right of way you need to register it. You also have to get a signed letter of permission from the landowner that is witnessed by someone who has no connection to your family or the landowners. You can't register a right of way without that letter.

    You can get it,without landowner permission....its a ton of work

    I know of soneone who has landlocked land,where the surronding owner wont sign/ignores requests to sign off....it involved engineers,solictors and search of old maps/deeds going back to 1840s,receipt of purchase of land etc

    You have to have proof of use over a certain length of time (9 years afaik).........but its much easier and leaves less of bitter taste for everyone involved to work together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    Burdens forms 60-69 here;

    https://www.prai.ie/forms/#verticalFormsTab8

    you want form 68
    .............................................
    Or this crowd , I don't know what they charge ,
    but it sounds simple enough if it's an existing right of way
    and landowner is in agreement
    I haven't used this service so I can't vouch for it.

    https://www.propertymapsireland.com/right-of-way

    There's a thread over in planning and construction
    where a r.o.w. was registered without landowner knowing;

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058187938


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    What about a right of way that was there but not now?

    There’s a mass path that we use and now it’s across a forestry and no trees planted in it but not on land direct as one.

    Will we need a solicitor?


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