Northern Ireland = Regional?

Hamsterchops

Have recently noticed Northern Ireland appearing as "Regional News" on the RTE News site, but since was Northern Ireland a region within this country?

Yes if course Northern Ireland is a UK region, (as it's a UK made entity) with a border drawn around it, and as such it's UK regional, but when did it become regional here? Like previously it was always referred to as "The North" or the North of Ireland, but rarely Northern Ireland.

... and now it's a recognised region :cool:

I mean it's not even a Provence in Irish terms is it.
The Provence of Ulster is not the same as Northern Ireland.

Discuss.

Ita part of our island and its long since time people acknowledged it and prepare properly,as we move ever closer to reunification

Smee_Again

Regional isn’t really a defined term so I don’t see any issue.

Hyperbollix

What will really bake your noodle is when you realize that it's barely recognized as a region of the UK............by the people or the media of the UK.

Violent clashes between rioters and police which would be a travesty necessitating prime billing if they occured in Britain, barely get a mention these days on UK media if they occur in NI.


So in that crazy reality, we might as well claim it as a region because we're the only ones that give two fúcks about what happens in it.

Hamsterchops

Smee_Again wrote: »

Regional isn’t really a defined term so I don’t see any issue.

My point being that the UK region known as Northern Ireland has now also become regional within this country, this even though it's UK regional..

So not only doe we now recognise the entity of Northern Ireland, but we now claim it as regional here

It's a new departure in language.

dxhound2005

RTE don't know that Northern Ireland is in the UK. They think GB is the UK.

Hamsterchops

It's just a subtle departure in language, and I was wondering if anybody else had picked up in it, obviously not :cool:

Leinster regional, Munster regional, Connaught regional, Northern Ireland Regional?

Surely Ulster would be the correct regional term, unless you deliberately wish to recognise the border which excludes three counties (in the regional news)!

Northern Ireland six counties (UK regional), Ulster nine counties regional as per the island, Yes/No?

dxhound2005

BBC 1 just showed the weather map. All of Ireland with no border.

Badly Drunk Boy

Hamsterchops wrote: »

So not only doe we now recognise the entity of Northern Ireland, but we now claim it as regional here

It's a new departure in language.

You said yourself that it's on the RTÉ website, but that's all. We don't have to adopt this new stance that they've taken, you know? Stop trying to find problems that aren't there...

Atlantic Dawn

It's part of Good Friday Agreement for RTE to provide news to Northern Ireland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-12048325
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/how-you-get-tg4-rte-one-and-rte-two

Hamsterchops

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

You said yourself that it's on the RTÉ website, but that's all. We don't have to adopt this new stance that they've taken, you know? Stop trying to find problems that aren't there...

Not a problem, just noticing a change in emphasis and language, Northern Ireland (as an entity) is now recognised as regional in this country! (RTE News website).

That's all.
I'll leave it there.....

Hamsterchops

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Not a problem, just noticing a change in emphasis and language, Northern Ireland (as an entity) is now recognised as regional in this country! (RTE News website).

That's all.
I'll leave it there.....

Its in as part of ulster (well because it is!)

Junkyard Tom

What do you think was partitioned in 1921?

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

What do you think was partitioned in 1921?

No, you're missing the point. Up until recently RTE Regional reports did not include Northern Ireland, because it's not regional within this state, so stories involving NI were headed 'NI', UK or Ulster. Now NI stories are included regionally, as if Northern Ireland (six counties) is regional, when it's obviously not.

Ulster (9 counties is regional) Northern Ireland is regional but not of this State

athlone573

Hamsterchops wrote: »

No, you're missing the point. Up until recently RTE Regional reports did not include Northern Ireland, because it's not regional within this state, so stories involving NI were headed 'NI', UK or Ulster. Now NI stories are included regionally, as if Northern Ireland (six counties) is regional, when it's obviously not.

Ulster (9 counties is regional) Northern Ireland is regional but not of this State

RTE is the National Broadcaster, not the State Broadcaster, what's the issue? Don't they have an office in LDerry?

Hamsterchops

athlone573 wrote: »

RTE is the National Broadcaster, not the State Broadcaster, what's the issue? Don't they have an office in LDerry?

Northern Ireland has never been regional, here, never.

Now (the 6 counties) is RTE regional news.

Just a subtle change in language, as NI was a UK region, now the 6 counties is an Irish region too!

athlone573

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Northern Ireland has never been regional, here, never.

Now (the 6 counties) is RTE regional news.

Just a subtle change in language, as NI was a UK region, now the 6 counties is an Irish region too!

I think you're the only one getting annoyed about it

There is an Ulster Fry and an Ulster Championship and they have their own soccer team
So why shouldn't they be a region along with the rest of the country?

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

now the 6 counties is an Irish region too!

They've always been an Irish region and always will be.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

They've always been an Irish region and always will be.

Well then, RTE have finally caught up ..........

So now NI is not only a UK region, but it's also an Irish region. Two jurisdictions claiming NI as a region within their borders. Cool

Don't know why they complain up there, with one foot in the UK and the other foot in the EU, a UK region created in 1921, and now a region here too.

Ulster (9 counties is an Irish region/provence)

ClosedAccountFuzzy

It’s RTE. Be thankful it doesn’t say “Dublin News” & “Down the Country News”

“Now for some reports from our regional correspondents … (that we couldn’t even be bothered writing intros for.)”

“Non-Dublin house prices have increased 5% (we couldn’t be arsed doing any further analysis so rolled Cork City in with the most rural parts of Leitrim.)

And now over to John who’s at THE airport just outside THE city.

Hamsterchops

FuzzyThinking for sure :rolleyes:

The six counties is an artificial entity, is it not?

athlone573

As our Leo put it, the Queen is still the Queen and people are still posting letters in red postboxes, so all is good with the world.

dxhound2005

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Have recently noticed Northern Ireland appearing as "Regional News" on the RTE News site, but since was Northern Ireland a region within this country?

Discuss.

Is it possible that it has been going on for years, but you only noticed it recently?

Badly Drunk Boy

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The six counties is an artificial entity, is it not?

All of the counties are artificial entities, really.

riffmongous

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Northern Ireland has never been regional, here, never.

Now (the 6 counties) is RTE regional news.

Just a subtle change in language, as NI was a UK region, now the 6 counties is an Irish region too!

I think it's interesting too, it's like an acknowledgement that it's legally different that you don't get with Ulster, but we still know it's a part of Ireland nonetheless.

Hamsterchops

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Is it possible that it has been going on for years, but you only noticed it recently?

Don't think so as Northern Ireland has only recently appeared as RTE Regional, which is probably a good thing to finally acknowledge and take ownership of the six counties as one of our regions!

Previously we would have shunned the notion of Northern Ireland being legit, now it's one of our regions.

dxhound2005

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Don't think so as Northern Ireland has only recently appeared as RTE Regional, which is probably a good thing to finally acknowledge and take ownership of the six counties as one of our regions!

Previously we would have shunned the notion of Northern Ireland being legit, now it's one of our regions.

Has only appeared recently, or as you posted at the start you first noticed it recently? When was the last time you saw the site without it?

Gregor Samsa

In the iPhone app, they have an Ulster section under Regional (not a “Northern Ireland” section) that includes news from NI.



Either way I wouldn’t be reading too much into all this. It’s the work of some web developer, not a major policy change of the State.

dxhound2005

This one shows Ulster under Regional. It also show Dublin under Regional.

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/

DJ_Eoghan

It's odd as they don't pay the TV licence, sounds like a subtle move by RTE to increase the potential base of licence-payers.

Brian?

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Have recently noticed Northern Ireland appearing as "Regional News" on the RTE News site, but since was Northern Ireland a region within this country?

Yes if course Northern Ireland is a UK region, (as it's a UK made entity) with a border drawn around it, and as such it's UK regional, but when did it become regional here? Like previously it was always referred to as "The North" or the North of Ireland, but rarely Northern Ireland.

... and now it's a recognised region :cool:

I mean it's not even a Provence in Irish terms is it.
The Provence of Ulster is not the same as Northern Ireland.

Discuss.

It’s a region of Ireland. I don’t see the confusion.