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basic question re physically mounting disks in case

  • 20-05-2021 9:15pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    been a long time since i had to think about these things.
    i have an 8 year old XPS tower, with two 3.5" spindle disks installed, and it's showing its age, so i want to stick an SSD in. but both 3.5" bays are taken - is it possible to mount a HD inside the present but empty floppy disk bay, so i can run the three disks? there's room for one more SATA connection, power also.

    else i'd have to get a 5.25" to 3.5" adapter to use one of the spare large bays, but they seem harder to come by.

    ta!


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    to answer my own question, yes it is possible. tiny bit of finessing, the spare power cable on the spur for the optical bays would have been too short if it was only a couple of mm shorter, but i managed to move one disk into the floppy bay (i'd been half expecting dell had some proprietary rail system which meant it might have been a non-standard size)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Does it have a dvd/cd drive? You can get adaptors that use the dvd bay to mount a 2.5 ssd.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    cheers, i don't think i'll need to do that now; i'm back up and running with one of the two disks in the floppy bay, and the SSD on order. it can go where the disk had been in the standard 3.5" bay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Bear in mind that most SATA SSDs are 2.5 inch form factor, not 3.5.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    cheers, i have the bracket on order too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,121 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    SSDs are feather light. Many people just velcro them to some part of the case.

    I had one hanging out of the cable for years.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    huh. never even thought of that. that's an idea, there's loads of space inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Flinty997 wrote: »
    SSDs are feather light. Many people just velcro them to some part of the case.

    I had one hanging out of the cable for years.
    This ^^^ I've used double sided sticky tape before as well :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Magnetic tape, would that interfere with the disk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭Xenoronin


    HDD's must be mounted since they have spinning disks inside. SSDs have no moving parts so... well... you really can just chuck them in anywhere if you don't mind wiretopia. Magnetic tape probably wouldn't harm an SSD, but probably best to avoid it just in case.
    Decided to google it just because I wasn't sure of it myself: https://serverfault.com/questions/352045/what-effects-do-magnets-have-on-hdds-and-ssds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Flinty997 wrote: »
    SSDs are feather light. Many people just velcro them to some part of the case.

    I had one hanging out of the cable for years.

    I wouldn't mind but I have one stuck to the back of the router with double sided tape, never thought of suggesting it to the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Flinty997 wrote: »
    SSDs are feather light. Many people just velcro them to some part of the case.

    I had one hanging out of the cable for years.

    I have one cable tied to part of the chassis; never an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,121 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The only issue, is I personally like to have some airflow over them. But its not essential.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    cheers, i have the bracket on order too.

    You can also get double brackets that allow 2 x SSDs into a single 3.5 inch drive bay which can prove handy for later expansion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    smacl wrote: »
    You can also get double brackets that allow 2 x SSDs into a single 3.5 inch drive bay which can prove handy for later expansion.

    That's what I had in my old desktop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    begbysback wrote: »
    Magnetic tape, would that interfere with the disk?


    It would not harm the disk - not an SSD for sure, and not and hdd either; The concept "a magnet will erase your disk" is largely a myth - or better the magnetic field would need to be hilariously, obviosly strong - like setting a largeish neodimium magnet right on top of the HDD.

    Case in point, there are plenty of magnetic accessories for PCs, from led strips to the NXZT puck to cable routers. Magnetic tape is usually not very strong 'though, you'd be better off with velcro or good old double-sided tape.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    disk was delivered yesterday, OS reinstalled, all well.

    well, bar from being begged repeatedly to continue using Edge. MS is like a needy child at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    I love a nice cleanly installed os it just zips along. W10 is a massive improvement on the 3 day ordeal it took with XP


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    only issue i had was that for reasons lost in the mist of time, my computer had been set up for legacy boot and there was no way the new disk would boot. changing to UEFI fixed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Maybe you tried a Linux distro at some stage, they'll work with uefi now but it was an awful hassle with them a few years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I treat SSD like the end of cables - jam them wherever they'll fit out of the way and call it a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,816 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Flinty997 wrote: »
    The only issue, is I personally like to have some airflow over them. But its not essential.

    A 2.5" SSD doesn't need airflow.

    Their controller will never get hot on account of maxing out at 550mb/s
    And any airflow won't matter as the chips are essentially floating in an air gap between the shell (so can't even take advantage of cooling).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Saadyst


    I've mutiple SSDs hanging on in drive bays with rubber bands :D


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