MO Bacter Instant liquid - any good?

tDw6u1bj

Claims to kill moss in 24-hours but won't stain (so presumably isn't iron sulphate based)

Has anyone used it ?
Does it work?

I tried the granules before and they didn't do much good. Had success with iron sulphate but it makes a mess of the paving.

This - mobacter(dot)ie/mobacter-instant.html

Jim_Hodge

I'd imagine it's as effective as the granules. At about €120 to do my lawns I just can't justify it without being sure it's a sure fire positive result.

black & white

I used the Mo Bacter granules in March and worked perfectly, killed every spec of moss which came out easily afterwards. I scarified the garden first so the Mo B could get right down to the roots. I put fertiliser on a week later and the grass has never looked so well in the 30 years I've been living here.

tDw6u1bj

black & white wrote: »

I used the Mo Bacter granules in March and worked perfectly, killed every spec of moss which came out easily afterwards. I scarified the garden first so the Mo B could get right down to the roots. I put fertiliser on a week later and the grass has never looked so well in the 30 years I've been living here.

hmmm...scarifying should get rid of almost everything anyway, so I don't see that as much of an endorsement...

anyway, the liquid is advertised as "instant" rather than working over several weeks like the granules...so the mechanism of action must be pretty different?

black & white

I've been following a gardener from Norn Iron on Youtube and I find his stuff easy to follow and informative. Not sure if I can link but search Premier Lawns and his name is Robbie.

tDw6u1bj

I decided to try it out and have sprayed a test-patch to see if it does anything.

The smell is...something.
If you shoved dried oregano up your nose while walking around a chicken farm you'd be in the right ball-park.

fryup

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

I decided to try it out and have sprayed a test-patch to see if it does anything.

give us feedback won't you

black & white

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

I decided to try it out and have sprayed a test-patch to see if it does anything.

The smell is...something.
If you shoved dried oregano up your nose while walking around a chicken farm you'd be in the right ball-park.

The smell is powerful all right, had neighbours asking if there was something dead in my garden.

magicbastarder

handy tip if you're burying trevor jordache under your patio.

tDw6u1bj

Update!

One week* on and my moss is as happy and content as ever.

Having now tried both the granules and instant liquid I'm calling it - MoBacter is a complete scam. It's fertiliser and nothing else.




*(it's supposed to work within 24-hours but I gave it some extra time just in case.

tDw6u1bj

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

Update!

One week* on and my moss is as happy and content as ever.

Having now tried both the granules and instant liquid I'm calling it - MoBacter is a complete scam. It's fertiliser and nothing else.


*(it's supposed to work within 24-hours but I gave it some extra time just in case.

Temp needs to be above 13C for it to work. Been too cold

Jim_Hodge

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Temp needs to be above 13C for it to work. Been too cold

We've had over 13c for the past two weeks where I am.

Generally I've had poor results from Mo Bactor and it just isn't worth the expense when you've 1000sg mt of lawn.

tDw6u1bj

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Temp needs to be above 13C for it to work. Been too cold

This is about the liquid -
"Apply in dry weather (from Feb–Nov), in frost-free conditions with soil temperature above 5 C degrees."

tDw6u1bj

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

This is about the liquid -
"Apply in dry weather (from Feb–Nov), in frost-free conditions with soil temperature above 5 C degrees."

We've not been frost free yet.

Jim_Hodge

SouthWesterly wrote: »

We've not been frost free yet.

I don't now where you are but it seems to have the worst weather in the country. We haven't had frost in ages and daytime temperatures 14c and higher for weeks.

tDw6u1bj

SouthWesterly wrote: »

We've not been frost free yet.

Conditions have been suitable.
They especially were in the 24hrs after spraying.


Even if they weren't quite perfect then you would expect something.

So what's the use case here then? you can only use it on a full moon in july? hardly when people want to treat for moss. or only use it in warmer climates (will they even get mossy lawns there?)

Jim_Hodge

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

Conditions have been suitable.
They especially were in the 24hrs after spraying.


Even if they weren't quite perfect then you would expect something.

So what's the use case here then? you can only use it on a full moon in july? hardly when people want to treat for moss. or only use it in warmer climates (will they even get mossy lawns there?)

Conditions have been good and were excellent when I used it previously. It's basically a 5-5-20 fertiliser with an added bacillus bacteria that is found in soil anyway. The high levels of potassium are taken in by the moss and this causes the moss to break down. The bacteria just digests the dying moss.
A feed of 7-6-17 will do most of the work and the bacteria is present in any decent soil anyway.

tDw6u1bj

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Conditions have been good and were excellent when I used it previously. It's basically a 5-5-20 fertiliser with an added bacillus bacteria that is found in soil anyway. The high levels of potassium are taken in by the moss and this causes the moss to break down. The bacteria just digests the dying moss.
A feed of 7-6-17 will do most of the work and the bacteria is present in any decent soil anyway.

So that's the mechanism for the granules, but I'm still really curious how the instant/spray was supposed to work in 24hrs?

There's no way they could think that mechanism could work that quickly.

StephenB

Hey folks, recently used the granules and the smell is about to get me a divorce. Any idea how long it'll last. I'm only short of actually hoovering my grass like a loon

NIMAN

I used it last year and didn't notice much difference in the moss die back, but used it this year and it seemed to work a lot better, not sure why?

Maybe I put on more, or maybe conditions were better this year? Also I raked the moss out this year a bit better, and this has allowed the grass to mostly fill in the spaces.

The fertiliser effect seems to have worked better this year too, grass looks healthier as if I just threw one of those 'feed and weeds' down.

magicbastarder

Anyone know what the active ingredient is? If you poured boiling water on moss you'd be hard pressed to know 24 hours later that it was properly dead so I doubt you'd get visible results from this stuff in the same time frame even if it did do what it says on the tin.

Also, I'd be curious as to how much difference it makes to the conditions which allows the moss to grow. You might want to lime the lawn for more long term results.