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Field grass in lawn

  • 12-05-2021 10:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭


    Have a 2 year old garden with a new build house.
    Was a total mess on moving in with poor soil and scattered grass seed.
    Got it looking fairly well last summer with plenty of tlc, overseeding, feeding etc.

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    Now this year I've a lot of coarse field/meadow type grass all over the garden with seed stalks growing back very quickly after cutting.

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    Any advice on what to do here or how to get rid of it?
    I am right next to fields and farmland so not surprising.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Brego888 wrote: »
    Have a 2 year old garden with a new build house.
    Was a total mess on moving in with poor soil and scattered grass seed.
    Got it looking fairly well last summer with plenty of tlc, overseeding, feeding etc.

    Screenshot_20210512-110009.jpg

    Now this year I'll a lot of coarse field/meadow type grass all over the garden with seed stalks growing back very quickly after cutting.

    Screenshot_20210512-105749.jpg

    Screenshot_20210512-105737.jpg

    Any advice on what to do here or how to get rid of it?
    I am right next to fields and farmland so not surprising.

    Looks really well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Looks really well.

    First image is last summer. Doesn't look so well now with all this invading grass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Hobby farmer


    I see what you mean with the stalky meadow type grass. I have a similiar issue in my lawn, oddly just on the front lawn which seems to have lots of different varieties. I just keep it cut regularly. Btw your lawn looks really well, very lush and green.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Wouldn't regular mowing and pulling up and bits you don't like by hand solve this ?

    Robot mower being the least amount of effort

    Note you won't be able to avoid other grasses in your lawn. It's open to elements and birds . That's just the nature of gardens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Too much to pull up by hand. It's everywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭RonanC


    It looks like Poa Annua. In the unlikely event you can get your hands on a pre-emergent your best bet is to pull by hand and to bag your clippings to reduce the amount of seeds that will germinate in autumn and next spring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭JPup


    I can't help you with your query on the grass, but my two cents for what their worth is that people can focus far too much on the lawn at the expense of the rest of the garden. I'd be inclined to let the grass be, keep it mowed regularly and don't mind the odd weed here and there.

    I suggest painting the garden walls something like a dark green or maybe even sky blue. Then planting all up along the walls. Add in a variety of heights. The garden is big enough to take a small tree. While the grass looks great in that first photo from last year, otherwise the garden is very bare. No offence intended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    No offence taken. As I said it's a new build new garden so doing things one step at a time.
    Walls are getting plastered in 2 weeks and garden is full of toys at the minute with 2 very small kids at home!
    Won't be doing a huge amount of planting until they get a bit older bar a few hanging baskets this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I wouldn't be concerned. All grasses send up flower/seed stalks. Keep it regularly mown. It's fine,


  • Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Regular mowing and a feed in spring and summer will look after most weeds.

    Once you get planting, you'll notice the lawn less. If you do plant, you'll need to put in loads of organic matter and probably top soil as you likely have a very shallow base there.

    Best of luck. You have a great canvass to work on there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    Regular mowing and a feed in spring and summer will look after most weeds.

    Is there anything in particular that's recommended for feeding - or is it just whatever's going in Woodies around this time of year (4in1 type stuff)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    listermint wrote: »
    Wouldn't regular mowing and pulling up and bits you don't like by hand solve this ?

    Robot mower being the least amount of effort

    Note you won't be able to avoid other grasses in your lawn. It's open to elements and birds . That's just the nature of gardens

    This is great advice if you want to keep a manicured lawn.

    Your lawn looks great, just keep it regularly cut, fed and weeded and you should be in good shape. The more you cut the better it will look but it will always be contaminated by the "farm grass". I have a silage field on 3 sides of my lawn so I gave up on the perfect lawn after 4 years as it could almost take over your life.

    I now use a robot since last year and it keeps the grass in good shape with little or no effort. My lawn is 10 years old now and looks great from a distance as its constantly cut. If you look at my 2nd photo you can the contamination up close. The lighter color but heavier "farm grass" plus a mix of clover and other crap.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭JPup


    Brego888 wrote: »
    No offence taken. As I said it's a new build new garden so doing things one step at a time.
    Walls are getting plastered in 2 weeks and garden is full of toys at the minute with 2 very small kids at home!
    Won't be doing a huge amount of planting until they get a bit older bar a few hanging baskets this summer.

    It can be difficult when the kids are small, but you'll thank yourself later if you just even put in one plant a year. Say add a nice magnolia this year into one of the corners. Then next year add a different plant. Eventually the garden will develop nicely.

    You know the saying the best time to have planted something is 20 years ago (or 10, 50, 100, whatever is appropriate for the plant in question) and the second best time is now. Do your future self a favour and do little bits here and there when you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    thejaguar wrote: »
    Is there anything in particular that's recommended for feeding - or is it just whatever's going in Woodies around this time of year (4in1 type stuff)

    Evergreen 4in1 will have the lawn looking Heineken green and really thicken up your lawn but it will need cutting more than once a week as it really promotes growth.

    If you have Coop or Glambia farm store near you they have decent generic products that are much cheaper and do a similar job with the same or similar NPK ratio's


  • Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Brego888 wrote: »
    No offence taken. As I said it's a new build new garden so doing things one step at a time.
    Walls are getting plastered in 2 weeks and garden is full of toys at the minute with 2 very small kids at home!
    Won't be doing a huge amount of planting until they get a bit older bar a few hanging baskets this summer.

    I have a one and a two year old and have put loads of planting in since we moved into our place two years ago. Raised beds and pots are your friend. Borders are pointless as they will just walk into them and trample the planting, and once they start kicking ball everything will get wrecked. I built them their own play area and they have their own planting and digging area and they know not to damage the plants now. Get them involved and encourage them to muck in - my pair love it and my two year old is mad into it now. Few casualties along the way but it's not as hard as you'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Roadtoad


    Isn't it lovely . Say it loud and often, affecting Éanna Ní Lamhna's lovely Louth accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    There’s nothing really you can do. Keep it mowed and enjoy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    There are different blends of grass seed sold for different purposes; some produce a very fine lawn which is very susceptible to damage and others are designed to produce a more hard-wearing effect for areas where there will be foot traffic. What you seem to have is the latter, which is fortunate for you, as you mention that you have two small kids who will inevitably cause wear and tear as they grow. All you need to do is keep it mown and occasionally fed and it will look fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    On this topic, does anyone know why my sections of my garden is showing this type of grass?

    It was re-sown last year, and to be honest the section of the garden it in would be damp-ish.

    But the seed I bought was definitely lawn seed, so I expected a better quality grass from it.

    It has big long shoots of grass coming from central point, and its quite coarse.

    1st photo, showing a section of it
    [IMG][/img]51212463942_cdae43565e_c.jpgGrass issue? by S, on Flickr


    And a 2nd photo, showing a close-up

    [IMG][/img]51212465437_f6a232942f_c.jpgGrass issue 2? by S, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    NIMAN wrote: »
    On this topic, does anyone know why my sections of my garden is showing this type of grass?

    It was re-sown last year, and to be honest the section of the garden it in would be damp-ish.

    But the seed I bought was definitely lawn seed, so I expected a better quality grass from it.

    It has big long shoots of grass coming from central point, and its quite coarse.

    It's just one of the species in the mix and it's seeding. Quite normal. Keep it well trimmed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,696 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Many thanks.


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