Recommend a cordless drill

Snotty

Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.

Mike2006

Hi,

Really depends on your budget.
I would consider this to be a good value twin kit with a few good features:

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• impact driver for screws
• two batteries with a decent capacity (4Ah each)
• good combi-drill with hammer function
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  Good value at €240 (imo) which would be up to most if not all DIY jobs...
  
  Mike

greasepalm

Have a look on screwfix website as it gets reviews from the users who bought it.

Fine Cheers

Parkside range by Lidl do the job for me - occasional DIY. Go for the larger battery if possible.

Krombopulos Michael

I went with Ryobi for my drill and impact driver. One of the things I spent time on is deciding which battery eco system I wanted to buy into. As Ryobi basically havent changed the battery shape in a very long time, I can use the same battery on my drill, leaf blower, strimmer etc.

Just something to consider if you are expecting to go cordless with other tools in the future.

Snotty

This drill is in Aldi,, €120. Cannot see it on the Irish site but there was a few of them for sale last night when I was in.
Is the 2ah battery enough?

https://www.aldi.co.uk/scheppach-mobile-workshop-drill/p/804247467611800

FileNotFound

Snotty wrote: »

Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.

Buy once, buy right and never buy again.

Have a range of Black & decker (Poor enough), Makita (pretty good but the older models, not sure if new stuff is as good) and Dewalt (always seems to stand up).

If you plan on making holes in concrete get a good sds - goes through like butter.

tDw6u1bj

Snotty wrote: »

I use... a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter

It's not really a matter of a good drill, it's the one that's right for the job. It sounds like the larger drill you've been using for concrete is just the wrong kind.

For masonry, anything except a SDS drill is a waste of time. These do go through masonry like butter but usually aren't "very small". Combi-drills have a masonry function, but it's very slow for anything but very soft materials. Sounds like this guy either had one of the few SDS drills that could be called small, or was using a combi-drill and went through the mortar instead of the brick. SDS drill can be got in lidl for as little as 35, but normally they start at about 100

Other than that you have

cordless (and combi) dare for drilling standard holes and are all-rounders, if you only get one drill this is what you get.

Impact drivers which are for screwing in screws. They have a chuck which is designed for only taking screw bits so you don't use them for drilling (you can get drill bits that fit, but they're expensive for something that might break and tend to be wobbly anyway). Doesn't sound that great but feels kind of life-changing once you start using them (same with SDS tbh).

If you've got the money then treat yourself to a nice dewalt/makita/etc if your pockets will take it but for home use I'd try and get all three before moving to better brands.

The Continental Op

Is there some way we can put together a Drill FAQ? Questions about drill recommendation have to be fairly common.

While the brand recommendations may change a little overtime there are a few things that don't change .....

Drill types

Plain Drilling/Screwing

Impact driver (perhaps not strictly a drill)

Hammer drill (normally a feature of a combi drill)

SDS ​

Battery V Corded

Brushes V brushless

Battery Voltage and Amperage.

Chuck types

Bit types sizes and uses

Lidl/Aldi Drills V big brand names

etc etc

The B&Q Drill buying guide covers a lot of it.

The Continental Op

Snotty wrote: »

This drill is in Aldi,, €120. Cannot see it on the Irish site but there was a few of them for sale last night when I was in.
Is the 2ah battery enough?

https://www.aldi.co.uk/scheppach-mobile-workshop-drill/p/804247467611800

That could be a good drill but I'm not sure if I was buying I wouldn't stick to a brand (even Lidl or Aldi's own brands) were the batteries could be used in another tool. However for someone who only wants a drill thats not a bad choice.

Plus a three year warranty.

dodzy

Snotty wrote: »

Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt#product_additional_details_container

You can thank me after you’ve used them

mickuhaha

If you're buying a drill for concrete you would need to find the drills impact energy rating not to be confused with an impact drill. The sds drills have a high impact rating normally over 6J. This is what makes them go through concrete like butter. Most of the cordless sds drills would be under 2.5J. so if you're dealing with fresh concrete the cordless would do but if its anything older that 15 year old concrete I would get a corded sds. They also have the bonus of being able to chisel.

Silent night

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt

I got these can't fault them

Wolftown

I've a Black and Decker combi. Has served me well over the past 2 years.

Will go through concrete on hammer setting, but certainly not like butter..so it depends how much concrete drilling you plan to do really.

Kit also came with 2 batteries which is handy.

dodzy

mickuhaha wrote: »

If you're buying a drill for concrete you would need to find the drills impact energy rating not to be confused with an impact drill. The sds drills have a high impact rating normally over 6J. This is what makes them go through concrete like butter. Most of the cordless sds drills would be under 2.5J. so if you're dealing with fresh concrete the cordless would do but if its anything older that 15 year old concrete I would get a corded sds. They also have the bonus of being able to chisel.

Highly inaccurate post that only serves to confuse those unfamiliar with power tools.

Sub 2.5 joules perfectly fine for concrete SDS work
Cordless SDS unit can chisel too

Snotty

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

It's not really a matter of a good drill, it's the one that's right for the job. It sounds like the larger drill you've been using for concrete is just the wrong kind.

No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v

I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup

The Continental Op

Snotty wrote: »

No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v

I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup

Really nothing wrong with 12V I used a 12V Hitachi for years. In the end I couldn't get replacement batteries for it.

Then if you only occasionally need to drill into brick then getting the extension lead out will save you quids on batteries sat doing nothing.

dodzy

Snotty wrote: »

No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v

I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup

Get away from the corded stuff. Buy the set I linked...and then just pick up a 133 or a 253 naked (both are SDS). You’ll already have the batteries. Then your drilling arsenal will be complete

askU

Would anyone recommend Argos for power tools? Looking at the website, prices are competitive.

Fine Cheers

Picked up a black and decker mini angle grinder in Argos for a tenner cheaper than Woodies, exact same type. No harm to use Argos to compare prices but do your homework on actual spec of tool.

The Red Ace

as there seems to be always a good bit of advice here re tools have you come across the brand Kielder, they are made in Yorkshire mostly supplied with 4ah interchangeable batteries and brushless motors with 3 year warranty. I got their 750 newton meter 1/2 inch impact driver last year for E 236 and it is a serious piece of kit, (google Kielder tools) or find them on facebook.

niallers1

DeWalt 18v cordless from Screwfix.
Excellent drills from DeWalt.

TimHorton

dodzy wrote: »

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt#product_additional_details_container

You can thank me after you’ve used them

I have these https://www.screwfix.ie/p/milwaukee-m18-fpp2a2-502x-fuel-18v-5-0ah-li-ion-redlithium-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/133fj

Plus

https://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/p/milwaukee-m18ffn-502c-18v-m18-fuel-framing-nailer-2-x-5ah-batteries/p-h13192

Got all 3 Tools + 2 5 amh batteries for €350 Total on HomeDepot + €60 Address Pal fees and duty

Details of HomeDepot Deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm5fvGrqD0&t=2s

Savage Tools

colm_mcm

askU wrote: »

Would anyone recommend Argos for power tools? Looking at the website, prices are competitive.

Depends, their own brand stuff like Guild is muck.


Best bang for buck is Lidl 20v (€25) plus 2ah battery and charger (€25) plus spare 2ah battery (€16)

They sometimes do a hammer version for €30 too.

Great warranty.

Snotty

colm_mcm wrote: »

Depends, their own brand stuff like Guild is muck.


Best bang for buck is Lidl 20v (€25) plus 2ah battery and charger (€25) plus spare 2ah battery (€16)

They sometimes do a hammer version for €30 too.

Great warranty.

How often would these come into Lidl?

colm_mcm

A few times a year

FileNotFound

Snotty wrote: »

How often would these come into Lidl?

Keep an eye, often seen builders go in a fleece the stuff, lads i know who do contract work and have guys working for them swear by the Lidl stuff.

Now their reasoning is the lads they have wreck everything no matter how good and the Lidl stuff does the job.

TimHorton

FileNotFound wrote: »

Keep an eye, often seen builders go in a fleece the stuff, lads i know who do contract work and have guys working for them swear by the Lidl stuff.

Now their reasoning is the lads they have wreck everything no matter how good and the Lidl stuff does the job.[/QUOTE

Builders buy cheap and burn them out and go again , Disposable.

tDw6u1bj

TimHorton wrote: »

Builders buy cheap and burn them out and go again , Disposable.

Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.

Lumen

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.

The specific use I saw referred to in a Youtube video was using the battery end of a drill/impact driver as a lump hammer.

Fine Cheers

tDw6u1bj wrote: »

Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.

Spot on !

TimHorton

Bought this Dewalt Cordless Saw Bare tool for $63 in 2008 on Amazon.com (Delivered to a relative in US before I went on Holidays and picked it up) and still going great.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016BL6CS/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yesterday I picked up this Makita with 2 batteries for $91 total , will cost €29.99 shipping to Ireland via Addresspal and lets see what the customs charge comes to . I am getting a professional tool at Lidl/Aldi Prices.

The works by getting the Tool/Battery Kit sent to Addrsspal and choosing instore pickup for the extra 2 batteries . You simply cancel the instore pickup to get saw/2batteries for 91 dollars...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaQ9MWUc7Mo

colm_mcm

That will end up costing approx €140 I think.

TimHorton

colm_mcm wrote: »

That will end up costing approx €140 I think.

Point being its a professional brushless tool that will likely last 10 or more years .The junk in Aldii Lidli and B&Q also come nowhere near in terms of performance.The modern brushless tools i have from Milwaukee and now Makita are absolute beasts.

tDw6u1bj

colm_mcm wrote: »

That will end up costing approx €140 I think.

It could end up costing quite a bit more than that. The VAT/duty could be judged based on full RRP + postage. It's a bit of a roll of the dice, but if it gets flagged like that then there's no recourse.

TimHorton wrote: »

Point being its a professional brushless tool that will likely last 10 or more years .The junk in Aldii Lidli and B&Q also come nowhere near in terms of performance.The modern brushless tools i have from Milwaukee and now Makita are absolute beasts.

Aldi/Lidl tools will last the vast majority of homeowners 10+ years too.

Are they as good of tools? Absolutely not, nobody would argue they are. For most the difference is meaningless though. Writing them all off as "junk" is silly/snotty.

Everybody circumstances are different but most have only so much to spend on tools and they'd be better off going wider than deeper (ie. they're better off buying a drill& impact driver&SDS from aldi than spending the same for just a makita combi-drill).

You've link an absolute bargain, but if it makes sense for you to buy that then you're already going to know what you want.

Then there's the other issues with warrantees/chargers etc.

TimHorton

Each to their own , When I started DIY 15 years ago I quickly found out crap tools were not going to work , Over several Trips to the US I built up a sizeable collection of Dewalt 18V Tools that do this day are perfect. In Jan this year I was looking for a framing nailer and found this deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm5fvGrqD0 , What I paid for 3 tools and 2 batteries was amazing value for awesome tools.
For a little risk and a few more euro you can get better tools for what you get in Ireland.

odoliam

I prefer Bosch Professional
Gone through so many Aldi/Lidl drills I gave up
Have this drill: https://amzn.to/34eezHH (comes with 2 batteries)
and this: https://amzn.to/2RHa0Dd
and you have most things covered

Hard to beat that combo - cordless and sub €200....and 2 drills, so I find it so handy when working with wood and needing to drill holes and screwing so saves time constantly swapping bits!

Richard_parker

Depending on your budget of course, but for me best cordless drill that I have personally tried is Milwaukee M18-FPD2. DeWalt isnt bad either (cant remember code name) but I preferred Milwaukee. I also have Bosch green series and Parkside 20V, bosch green is crap worst tools I ever used. I have extensive parkside 20V collection and I am very happy with them but I have never tried drilling concrete with parkside cordless drill so dont know about that(I use corded sds for that), I think it will be fine, even better if you get their new gray 20V series. I am now going to Milwaukee M18 battery/tools(drill, impact driver, laser, and router only) but I am keeping all my Parkside 20V, they served me well and still going strong.


I hear good things about Hikoki/Hitachi but no personal experience with these.

TimHorton

colm_mcm wrote: »

That will end up costing approx €140 I think.

Actually door to door just over €130,

Home Depot €75
Adresspal €30
Customs €25


Same Kit here would be close to €400

Fine Cheers

Wow fair play Tim, well worth the trouble so.
Is there a work around using addresspal for those of us not travelling to US ?

TimHorton

Fine Cheers wrote: »

Wow fair play Tim, well worth the trouble so.
Is there a work around using addresspal for those of us not travelling to US ?

I am using Addresspal ,

5 US Orders so far this year , all from Homedepot

Tools Ordered Listed Below - I have saved a fortune ,

Milwaukee Kit

1st Fix Nail Gun
1 Drill Driver
1 Impact Driver
2x 5 amh Batteries ,

I paid $399 , List price is $699

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm5fvGrqD0&t=5s

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-W-Framing-Nailer-2997-22-2744-20/314961705

Milwaukee Multi Tool

List $199 - Paid $129

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-with-M12-2-0Ah-Battery-2526-20-48-11-2420/314317560

Milwaukee Strimmer with 8amh Battery , List $299 , I paid $202

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-String-Trimmer-with-QUIK-LOK-Attachment-Capability-and-8-0-Ah-Battery-2825-21ST/307753410


Makita Circular saw with 2 5 amh batteries $249 List , Paid $91

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaQ9MWUc7Mo

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-18-Volt-X2-LXT-Lithium-Ion-36-Volt-Brushless-Cordless-7-1-4-in-Circular-Saw-Kit-5-0Ah-XSH06PT/307288228

Milwaukee Blower - List $159 , I paid $99

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmo7_o0AJqE&t=167s

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-120-MPH-450-CFM-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Handheld-Blower-Tool-Only-2724-20/302752040

Richard_parker

TimHorton wrote: »

I am using Addresspal ,

5 US Orders so far this year , all from Homedepot

Tools Ordered Listed Below - I have saved a fortune ,

Milwaukee Kit

1st Fix Nail Gun
1 Drill Driver
1 Impact Driver
2x 5 amh Batteries ,

I paid $399 , List price is $699

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-W-Framing-Nailer-2997-22-2744-20/314961705

Milwaukee Multi Tool

List $199 - Paid $129

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-with-M12-2-0Ah-Battery-2526-20-48-11-2420/314317560

Milwaukee Strimmer with 8amh Battery , List $299 , I paid $202

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-String-Trimmer-with-QUIK-LOK-Attachment-Capability-and-8-0-Ah-Battery-2825-21ST/307753410


Makita Circular saw with 2 5 amh batteries $249 List , Paid $91

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-18-Volt-X2-LXT-Lithium-Ion-36-Volt-Brushless-Cordless-7-1-4-in-Circular-Saw-Kit-5-0Ah-XSH06PT/307288228

Milwaukee Blower - List $159 , I paid $99

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-120-MPH-450-CFM-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Handheld-Blower-Tool-Only-2724-20/302752040

So the trick is to go for a kit and wait for discounts/deals?


I am looking at bare tools right now as I already have several batteries, they are basically the same prices as here, that is for Milwaukee bare tools haven't looked into dewalt as I am not on that pack.

TimHorton

Richard_parker wrote: »

So the trick is to go for a kit and wait for discounts/deals?


I am looking at bare tools right now as I already have several batteries, they are basically the same prices as here, that is for Milwaukee bare tools haven't looked into dewalt as I am not on that pack.

Keep an eye on this guy on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWVH1FryFHgIktQpFRpV9uQ/videos

In this video he explains the hack for Milwaukee in Home Depot

https://youtu.be/YFX_tAZq9Bg?t=2

Take for example the Milwaukee Strimmer with 8 amh Battery ,
Its $299 on the site but if you add another $300 Milwaukee tool to the same order the price goes down . In my case the strimmer dropped to $202 , So I placed the order for both tools and paid in full over $440 , But I don't want the second tool so I set that for In Store Pick and get the strimmer shipped to Address Pal in New Jersey - After 7 days when I don't pick up the second tool that part of the order is cancelled and i get a refund for that part and I still only paid $202 for the strimmer.See receipt attached

Richard_parker

TimHorton wrote: »

Keep an eye on this guy on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWVH1FryFHgIktQpFRpV9uQ/videos

In this video he explains the hack for Milwaukee in Home Depot

https://youtu.be/YFX_tAZq9Bg?t=2

Take for example the Milwaukee Strimmer with 8 amh Battery ,
Its $299 on the site but if you add another $300 Milwaukee tool to the same order the price goes down . In my case the strimmer dropped to $202 , So I placed the order for both tools and paid in full over $440 , But I don't want the second tool so I set that for In Store Pick and get the strimmer shipped to Address Pal in New Jersey - After 7 days when I don't pick up the second tool that part of the order is cancelled and i get a refund for that part and I still only paid $202 for the strimmer.See receipt attached

Nice one, that is very smart. I just subscribed to his channel.


Thanks very much for the tips, can not wait to give this a go

hesker

TimHorton wrote: »

Keep an eye on this guy on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWVH1FryFHgIktQpFRpV9uQ/videos

In this video he explains the hack for Milwaukee in Home Depot

https://youtu.be/YFX_tAZq9Bg?t=2

Take for example the Milwaukee Strimmer with 8 amh Battery ,
Its $299 on the site but if you add another $300 Milwaukee tool to the same order the price goes down . In my case the strimmer dropped to $202 , So I placed the order for both tools and paid in full over $440 , But I don't want the second tool so I set that for In Store Pick and get the strimmer shipped to Address Pal in New Jersey - After 7 days when I don't pick up the second tool that part of the order is cancelled and i get a refund for that part and I still only paid $202 for the strimmer.See receipt attached

How long has this been possible. I’m thinking it won’t be too long before they cop on to this

TimHorton

hesker wrote: »

How long has this been possible. I’m thinking it won’t be too long before they cop on to this

Looks like years.

Its all legit , Its best during Buy More Save More Promotions

https://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%2520buy%2520more%2520save%2520more?NCNI-5

acalmenvoy

TimHorton wrote: »

Looks like years.

Its all legit , Its best during Buy More Save More Promotions

https://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%2520buy%2520more%2520save%2520more?NCNI-5

Hey Tim, whats the story with the DeWalt 20v yank stuff, is it compatible with our 18v XR tools...?

The Continental Op

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Hey Tim, whats the story with the DeWalt 20v yank stuff, is it compatible with our 18v XR tools...?

Same stuff just yank marketing.

acalmenvoy

The Continental Op wrote: »

Same stuff just yank marketing.

But the 2 volt difference, would the batteries be swapable...?