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Buy a used car without warranty from an independent car dealer

  • 26-04-2021 4:42pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ KJK1LL3R
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    Hi guys,

    I am looking at buying a 132 Kia Ceed (90,000km) from a local independent dealer. He is friendly with my in-laws having sold them multiple cars before in the past.

    He is willing to sell me the car as a "trade sale" for €8000 with no warranty.
    Or he'll sell it for €8330 with 6 months engine, gearbox, parts & labour. Or he'll do it for €8200 with 3 months warranty.

    Is it too risky to buy a used car without warranty?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 50,148 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26
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    Taking the 6 months engine/gearbox warranty for 330 extra sounds like a no brainer but I'd be wondering why a dealer especially one who probably depends on local trade, would want the potential hassle of selling a car without a warranty to someone local and who's family buys from them regularly. The potential harm of bad word travelling around not wanting to know if something went wrong with the car would outweigh the cost of the warranty itself. Seems a bit bizarre that the dealer would invite such hassle for the sake of 330 euro.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭ User1998
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    You could buy it without warranty and get a 12 month Car Protect warranty yourself for €300 I think. The dealer probably uses either Car Protect or Mapfre anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,070 ✭✭✭✭ fryup
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    does a warranty mean anything in reality...are you entitled to your money back for instance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,782 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm
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    fryup wrote: »
    does a warranty mean anything in reality...are you entitled to your money back for instance?

    Warranty is in addition to your consumer rights.

    The kinda concerning thing is that it’s implied that by spending the €8000, they are effectively agreeing that they won’t be bothering the seller if it goes wrong.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭ ednwireland
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    fryup wrote: »
    does a warranty mean anything in reality...are you entitled to your money back for instance?

    i had the aircon condenser replaced and system regassed on my mapfre warranty when i bought my car from a independent dealer. its a kia and the 7 year/ 100000km manufacturers was out but mapre paid out - workdone at a kia dealer as well.

    no i doubt they will give you you money back dont think thats what those sort of warranties cover.

    wow 8k for a 132 ceed i bought my 131 ceed sw in 2019 for 8k are prices that high since brexit?

    op - check carefully what the warranty covers there seems to be a quite a few variations, if its a 3rd party it might be worth it, if its form the garage then it might not be. oh and the dealer i bought from threw in the warranty in the price


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Trent Chubby Cemetery
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    wow 8k for a 132 ceed i bought my 131 ceed sw in 2019 for 8k are prices that high since brexit?

    [/QUOTE]

    That was my first thought!!! €8K for an 8 Yr old kid ceed with 90,000 on clock........no thanks


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Trent Chubby Cemetery
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    wow 8k for a 132 ceed i bought my 131 ceed sw in 2019 for 8k are prices that high since brexit?

    That was my first thought!!! €8K for an 8 Yr old kid ceed with 90,000 on clock........no thanks[/QUOTE]


    Just had a quick browse through carzone.ie & a few other sites there......132 ceed ARE fetching that kinda money


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭ Infernal Racket
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    That's mental money for an 8 year old Kia ceed OP, have you looked around for other options?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭ Thinkingaboutit
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    Simply the extra legal protections in law from buying from a definite dealer (not a dealer who pretends to be a private seller as who tried to fool me did) should provide most of the legal protections. If the warranty is decent, the amount is well below many small to moderate dealer only jobs, like close to 900 Euro for an E200 wingmirror (insurance paid but by God).


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Henry Ford III
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    That's mental money for an 8 year old Kia ceed OP, have you looked around for other options?

    I don't understand that value either. They are a competent car, but not a used car nirvana by any means.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ KJK1LL3R
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    I went ahead with the 6 month warranty in the end. I should've mentioned that car is the Kia Ceed SW as opposed to the hatchback model. Trust me I would've preferred not to spend €8k but I've been shopping around for a used car since Christmas and the car prices are shocking. I previously lived in Northern Ireland and think the car prices down here in the south are extortionate compared to up North. I'm sure I could've got a better price but covid travel restrictions meant that I really needed to buy locally so that I could actually properly test drive. The only newer cars I could've got within my budget were Dacia which are very basic.

    I did a check on the carzone.ie valuation tool and the car was valued at €7950 so I don't think €8k was too far wide of the mark. I didn't think 90,000 on the clock was too bad considering that's km as opposed to miles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,070 ✭✭✭✭ fryup
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    but i thought a warranty off a dealer is a given? no need to ask


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭ Del2005
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Warranty is in addition to your consumer rights.

    The kinda concerning thing is that it’s implied that by spending the €8000, they are effectively agreeing that they won’t be bothering the seller if it goes wrong.

    Or the seller doesn't know that no matter what they write on the receipt there's no such thing as a trade sale to a private buyer. The Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act has more protection for a private buyer than a warranty.


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