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Solar on planning permission, but not included in build

  • 17-04-2021 8:42pm
    #1
    JigglyMcJabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭


    Hi, we've just bought a new build which doesn't come with solar on the roof. I don't mind that and wasn't expecting solar but when I looked at the plans submitted and approved for permission I noticed that solar panels were shown on the roof.
    Just wondering if that's a planning breach and if I should push for them to add solar as planned. I want to avoid any issues if we sell in the future and to be honest, if I have a bit of leverage with this, it would be nice to get this done without costing me as the house was expensive enough!

    Thanks


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  • #2
    maxsmum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭maxsmum


    No, your house comes with permission to add solar in the next 5 years, is all it means! You can apply for planning and not add all the elements in. It's a breach to do things the other way round, add panels without planning.


  • #3
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    maxsmum wrote: »
    No, your house comes with permission to add solar in the next 5 years, is all it means! You can apply for planning and not add all the elements in. It's a breach to do things the other way round, add panels without planning.

    Not sure that's the case tbh. As part of part L permissions the solar or some other means of energy efficient running of the household would have to have been included. What that was in this case I'm not sure. Maybe they substituted it. I don't believe you get to ignore or exclude that.

    That's a breech afaik


  • #4
    Izy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭Izy


    I made the mistake of not checking properly my BER cert when buying a new built and now I have an A3 rated house with single glazed windows according to the BER cert. They are double glazed and the builder did get the Part L document changed, but if I want the actual BER cert changed, I need a new survey completed for €200...


  • #5
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    JigglyMcJabs wrote: »
    Hi, we've just bought a new build which doesn't come with solar on the roof. I don't mind that and wasn't expecting solar but when I looked at the plans submitted and approved for permission I noticed that solar panels were shown on the roof.
    Just wondering if that's a planning breach and if I should push for them to add solar as planned. I want to avoid any issues if we sell in the future and to be honest, if I have a bit of leverage with this, it would be nice to get this done without costing me as the house was expensive enough!

    Thanks

    Did you get an Air To Water system installed by the builder?


  • #6
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    listermint wrote: »
    Not sure that's the case tbh. As part of part L permissions the solar or some other means of energy efficient running of the household would have to have been included. What that was in this case I'm not sure. Maybe they substituted it. I don't believe you get to ignore or exclude that.

    That's a breech afaik

    Different legislation.
    The planning allows for the panels.
    The developer can decide what they want to
    Do with Part L (building reg, not planning reg) as they are building. This includes substitution of strategy from solar to A2W or similar.


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  • #7
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Izy wrote: »
    I made the mistake of not checking properly my BER cert when buying a new built and now I have an A3 rated house with single glazed windows according to the BER cert. They are double glazed and the builder did get the Part L document changed, but if I want the actual BER cert changed, I need a new survey completed for €200...

    Makes no difference as single glazed windows are not a thing anymore.
    The report you got is yours and it’s an obvious typo but the actual cert makes no mention of it.


  • #8
    JigglyMcJabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭JigglyMcJabs


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Did you get an Air To Water system installed by the builder?

    Yes we did.


  • #9
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    JigglyMcJabs wrote: »
    Yes we did.

    Was that shown in the planning drawings?
    The unit out the back.

    So you can give them back the A2W and they will install the solar to keep you happy :p

    Serious though, no there’s no breach at all. Part L compliance can be achieve in a couple of ways so the developer chose the better route for you in my opinion. A2W is substantially better than gas boilers IMHO.


  • #10
    JigglyMcJabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭JigglyMcJabs


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Was that shown in the planning drawings?
    The unit out the back.

    So you can give them back the A2W and they will install the solar to keep you happy :p

    Serious though, no there’s no breach at all. Part L compliance can be achieve in a couple of ways so the developer chose the better route for you in my opinion. A2W is substantially better than gas boilers IMHO.

    Perfect thanks. I was 10% wondering if I could chance my arm but 90% making sure nothing comes back to haunt me when selling in the future.


  • #11
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Izy wrote: »
    I made the mistake of not checking properly my BER cert when buying a new built and now I have an A3 rated house with single glazed windows according to the BER cert. They are double glazed and the builder did get the Part L document changed, but if I want the actual BER cert changed, I need a new survey completed for €200...

    The assessor did not include single glazed windows.

    this is a result of SEAI incompetence because of how the Advisory Report is generated.

    If you have an A3 rating on a new build its most likely the assessor used the exact make and manufacturer of the windows in order to input the exact tested u value.

    because of the stupid way the software is designed, if you input the exact make and manufacturer, the "window section" defaults to single glazed windows..... idiotic, but thats how they designed it.

    also note, the actual "BER Cert" doesn't refer to any of this..... the advisory report is separate and absolutely not worth the paper its written on. its automatically generated from the software, and a document that the assessor has no control over how its worded.


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