Grazon pro docks- silage

irishguy19772

Is it okay to put grazon pro on docks?
I have it at home for gorse

Where I am spraying is where we will cut silage in a few months.

50HX

Will knock them but won't kill them, very expensive way to treat docks

Waste of money imo

irishguy19772

What you recommend instead?

50HX

Sorry

Grazon will treat docks

Work away with it by knapsack, you could also use lupo

irishguy19772

Thanks.

I only have around. 1 or 2 knapsacks to spread so figured wouldnt be worth my while buying something else.

popa smurf

I have heard that this grazon kills the notorious weed mares tail anyone any experience of this as it is fairly expensive.

endainoz

No harm to spot spray them, but if you don't figure out what caused them to grow in the first place guranteed they'll come back.

A dock problem is generally a sign of soil compaction and possibly overuse of slurry.

TooOldBoots

If you are using a Knapsack then use roundup. No point lugging around a knapsack and using a weak weedkiller when you are spot spraying

80sDiesel

TooOldBoots wrote: »

If you are using a Knapsack then use roundup. No point lugging around a knapsack and using a weak weedkiller when you are spot spraying

Does roundup kill it for good or just knock it back for the year?

TooOldBoots

Kills the plant complete.
Doesn't mean you wont have docks later on as the seed could be in the slurry you are spreading.

endainoz

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Kills the plant complete.
Doesn't mean you wont have docks later on as the seed could be in the slurry you are spreading.

I doubt you'd be spreading dock seeds with slurry, you could get it from FYM possibly. Dock seeds are likely in the ground already as they can stay dormant for decades and the compaction brings them up.

Jb1989

endainoz wrote: »

I doubt you'd be spreading dock seeds with slurry, you could get it from FYM possibly. Dock seeds are likely in the ground already as they can stay dormant for decades and the compaction brings them up.

Ploughing the ground brings them up more. Loosens the dormant seeds.

80sDiesel

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Kills the plant complete.
Doesn't mean you wont have docks later on as the seed could be in the slurry you are spreading.

Even Docks with large root crowns ?

wrangler

TooOldBoots wrote: »

If you are using a Knapsack then use roundup. No point lugging around a knapsack and using a weak weedkiller when you are spot spraying

I hate seeing anyone using roundup for spot spraying, firstly it doesn't kill nettles as good as grazon it only multiplies them, secondly it kills a whole square and allows weed to grow without competition and thirdly I don't like seeing the yellow patches around the field,
If you use a selective spray like grazon the grass will take over where the weed was

irishguy19772

Thanks wrangler.

So you think grazon pro would be fine?

Dunedin

wrangler wrote: »

I hate seeing anyone using roundup for spot spraying, firstly it doesn't kill nettles as good as grazon it only multiplies them, secondly it kills a whole square and allows weed to grow without competition and thirdly I don't like seeing the yellow patches around the field,
If you use a selective spray like grazon the grass will take over where the weed was

Would agree with that.

wrangler

irishguy19772 wrote: »

Thanks wrangler.

So you think grazon pro would be fine?

I use nothing else anyway, It really works well, it kills briars as well
But I don't have docks

Cavanjack

Grazon pro great stuff for spot spraying. If you use round up for spot spraying it’ll also kill grass around it. Better just kill the weed and let the grass have a chance around it.

DBK1

Dunedin wrote: »

Would agree with that.

Yea I’d agree as well. Roundup is probably the worst thing you can use for spot spraying. As Wrangler said, it kills everything and leaves bare soil for weeds to fire up in with no competition.

Jb1989

DBK1 wrote: »

Yea I’d agree as well. Roundup is probably the worst thing you can use for spot spraying. As Wrangler said, it kills everything and leaves bare soil for weeds to fire up in with no competition.

Depends on the dock Bush. If you can touch stem with end of nozzle there should be damn all grass wiped out.

TooOldBoots

It's your back you're lugging the knapsack on

Dupont

popa smurf wrote: »

I have heard that this grazon kills the notorious weed mares tail anyone any experience of this as it is fairly expensive.

Same trouble here finding something that will kill it !!

Birdnuts

Dupont wrote: »

Same trouble here finding something that will kill it !!

Increase in the use of roundup in inappropriate locations like Hedge bottoms and river banks has allowed this noxious weed to spread significantly in the last few years.

tellmeabit

I was given forefront t for my silage field but reading online there and it says not for use in hay/silage field until last cut taken.

Donegalforever

popa smurf wrote: »

I have heard that this grazon kills the notorious weed mares tail anyone any experience of this as it is fairly expensive.

I tried various stuff on Mares Tails with no success.
I then used a strong mix of Bush and Shrub killer and it worked 100%

fastrac

tellmeabit wrote: »

I was given forefront t for my silage field but reading online there and it says not for use in hay/silage field until last cut taken.[/QU

The only issue with Forefront is you will kill root crops if you spread the slurry/dung from any silage treated with it.If thats not an issue for you I think its the best spray for docks.

tellmeabit

I'm all grass , docks and rushes here. Cool thanks

Omallep2

fastrac wrote: »

tellmeabit wrote: »

I was given forefront t for my silage field but reading online there and it says not for use in hay/silage field until last cut taken.[/QU

The only issue with Forefront is you will kill root crops if you spread the slurry/dung from any silage treated with it.If thats not an issue for you I think its the best spray for docks.

I used it last year to great effect

tellmeabit

Omallep2 wrote: »

fastrac wrote: »

I used it last year to great effect

T
Cool thanks, I'm thinking of over seeding after 2nd cut so just wanna reduce what's there up to then. And stop depends back in the tank.

monseiur

popa smurf wrote: »

I have heard that this grazon kills the notorious weed mares tail anyone any experience of this as it is fairly expensive.

Grazon Pro will kill mares tail (we call it horse tail!) but Roundup or any of the glyphosate weed killers will not.
It costs roughly €70.00 per Litre, should do 5 to 6 knapsacks.
Obviously it's too early to spray yet, June / July is the best time.
Mare's tail is like Japenese Knotweed very difficult to eradicate, it can take years !

kerryjack

monseiur wrote: »

Grazon Pro will kill mares tail (we call it horse tail!) but Roundup or any of the glyphosate weed killers will not.
It costs roughly €70.00 per Litre, should do 5 to 6 knapsacks.
Obviously it's too early to spray yet, June / July is the best time.
Mare's tail is like Japenese Knotweed very difficult to eradicate, it can take years !

Gallup undiluted and use a paintbrush and give the horse tail a good soaking will get rid but it will take a while, jesus it's a quare weed when uncontolled.