Criminal offence tyre

FrankC21

Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.

Atlantic Dawn

I see it a lot when casually looking at cars parked in shopping centres and it's not all ancient cars either. It's not like they left the house this morning and the tyres were fully legal either.

User1998

Under inflated as well

odyssey06

Put the reg into the NCT site, hopefully it is due soon...

mickdw

I guess the brakes are running abit steel on steel judging by the colour of the dust.

Truckermal

mickdw wrote: »

I guess the brakes are running abit steel on steel judging by the colour of the dust.

I copped that too can't bate the Irish motorist for maintenance.

Darc19

It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

Also, unless you are a member of the gardai, it's not your position to call it out.

You can of course advise a driver that their tyre is worn, but saying it is criminal is wrong

mickdw

Darc19 wrote: »

It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

Also, unless you are a member of the gardai, it's not your position to call it out.

You can of course advise a driver that their tyre is worn, but saying it is criminal is wrong

If that driver crashed due to faulty tyre and killed someone, things would be rather more serious than a fixed penalty notice.

Darc19

mickdw wrote: »

If that driver crashed due to faulty tyre and killed someone, things would be rather more serious than a fixed penalty notice.

True, but it's still not a criminal offence no matter what catastrophe syndrome outcome you come up with.

Darc19

Darc19 wrote: »

It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

Darc19 wrote: »

True, but it's still not a criminal offence no matter what catastrophe syndrome outcome you come up with.

It is a Criminal offence.

Only 2 legal areas in Ireland under the common law system. Civil and criminal. It's not counted in background checks / vetting but it's still within the criminal remit.

FrankC21

LIGHTNING wrote: »

This is the second thread where you have posted basically

"It's none of your business"

In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

Ya, I saw your post in the other thread exact same response being nega about it.

KB22

Guess what your insurer will say if you are in an accident, having a bald tyre !

LollipopJimmy

I see this a lot on the bike and motorbike. It's shocking how bad some are

JCN12

FrankC21 wrote: »

Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.

So is driving at excessive speeds on Motorways Frank.

That tyre is pure insanity though.

FrankC21

JCN12 wrote: »

So is driving at excessive speeds on Motorways Frank.

That tyre is pure insanity though.

Wait now, i actually slowed down now 4th gear to italian job, i was young and stupid then.

Dirty Nails

FrankC21 wrote: »

Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.

And this happened while you were sitting in your car. The one with no brakes?

FrankC21

Dirty Nails wrote: »

And this happened while you were sitting in your car. The one with no brakes?

Aye now, that ain't fair.

JCN12

FrankC21 wrote: »

Wait now, i actually slowed down now 4th gear to italian job, i was young and stupid then.

Glad to hear it.

Darc19

LIGHTNING wrote: »

This is the second thread where you have posted basically

"It's none of your business"

In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

Yes and I'm correct in both.

In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

It is NOT a criminal offence.

Darc19

Darc19 wrote: »

Yes and I'm correct in both.

In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

It is NOT a criminal offence.

So what is it? What legal area does it fit?

It's an offence under section 11, road traffic act 1961 by the way. The same act that covers dangerous driving for example.

The fact that a fine can be issued doesn't change the legal area it's within. You can get a fine for section 4, Criminal justice (public order) act 1994 as well and multiple current covid regulations but guess what? If you don't pay the fine you get summonsed to court where you get convicted.

It's a Criminal offence

10pennymixup

Darc19 wrote: »

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It is NOT a criminal offence.

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

So what is it? What legal area does it fit?

It's an offence under section 11, road traffic act 1961 by the way. The same act that covers dangerous driving for example.

The fact that a fine can be issued doesn't change the legal area it's within. You can get a fine for section 4, Criminal justice (public order) act 1994 as well and multiple current covid regulations but guess what? If you don't pay the fine you get summonsed to court where you get convicted.

It's a Criminal offence

Would you like a bag to carry your ass that's just been handed to you?

cml387

Darc19 wrote: »

Yes and I'm correct in both.

In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

It is NOT a criminal offence.

Go over to Legal Issues and state this and see what answer you get.

bucketybuck

LIGHTNING wrote: »

This is the second thread where you have posted basically

"It's none of your business"

In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

Are people not allowed to have that opinion?

Tacitus Kilgore

bucketybuck wrote: »

Are people not allowed to have that opinion?

Course they are, but the right to have an opinion doesn't make one immune from being ripped apart for it

bucketybuck

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Course they are, but the right to have an opinion doesn't make one immune from being ripped apart for it

Ripping apart an opinion is fine, but that is not what the mod did.

magicbastarder

i once pointed out bald tyres on a grab truck to a garda; and i guess in that situation the fleet manager of the (well known) construction company would escape punishment, but the poor sod who was assigned the truck that morning would be the only one to be punished?

Isambard

photo of insurance disc, (better) photo of tyre, send to the Insurer.

magicbastarder

can the insurer take any action based on an unsolicited message from joe public? if they could, what controls are there to deal with malicious messages?

CoBo55

Follows thread for the craic... Hopefully nobody's horse loses a shoe....

Normal One

Nice slicks, bro.