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Aintree Thursday

  • 07-04-2021 11:37am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭


    Let’s get cracking…………………….



    THURSDAY, 8TH APRIL 2021 (ITV/RACINGTV)


    2.20PM – DOOMBAR ANNIVERSARY 4YO JUVENILE HURDLE 4YO GRADE 1 (CLASS 1) (4YO) 2M1F ITV
    2019 Winner: PENTLAND HILLS (11/4)
    Trainer: Nicky Henderson
    Jockey: Nico De Boinville

    15/17 – Ran at the Cheltenham Festival last time out
    14/17 – Placed in the top three last time out
    12/17 – Raced in the Triumph Hurdle (Cheltenham) last time out
    11/17 – Returned 3/1 or shorter in the betting
    7/17 – Winning favourites
    6/17 – Won last time out
    5/17 – Won by trainer Alan King (4 of the last 13)
    3/17 – Won by trainer Paul Nicholls
    2/17 - Won by trainer Nicky Henderson (last two)
    2/17 – Irish-trained winners
    12/15 winners were placed at worst at the Cheltenham Festival
    French-bred horses have won 11 of the last 21 (53%) runnings – including 4 of the last 5
    14/20 winners raced in the Triumph Hurdle earlier that season
    Just 5/30 winners hadn’t won at least twice over hurdles before

    TQ VERDICT: The Paul Nicholls-trained Monmiral will be popular here, having won all four starts over hurdles to date. He was last seen beating Nassalam by an easy 7 lengths at Haydock back in February and will head here fresh having missed the Cheltenham Festival. He’s the joint top-rated in the field, but I just feel at the price he might be worth taking on. The form of his win – when beating Nassalam – last time has taken a few knocks since and even though he’s clearly a horse with a lot of potential, I think the Pipe-trained ADAGIO sets a fair standard. He ran a blinder in the Triumph Hurdle at the Festival to be second and was only beaten 3 ¼ lengths that day behind the useful Quilixios. He had decent sorts like Zanahiyr and Tritonic beaten that day too and, for me, that form sets the standard here. He’s also got winning form on faster ground should conditions dry out more. Of the rest, it’s a race the Nicky Henderson yard have for the last two runnings, so their PAROS (e/w), who won well last time at Musselburgh, can do best of those at bigger prices. Fiveandtwenty has done little wrong in winning her three starts over hurdles and gets a handy 7lbs mares’ allowance here, but does also have more on her plate. The Skelton yard make up the six runners with John Locke and Carlos Felix, but you feel would have it all to do.



    2.50PM – THE BETWAY BOWL CHASE GRADE 1 (CLASS 1) (5YO+) 3M1F ITV
    2019 Winner: KEMBOY (9/4 fav)
    Trainer: Willie Mullins
    Jockey: R Walsh

    15/17 – Didn’t win last time out
    14/17 – Ran at the Cheltenham Festival last time out
    11/17 – Ran in the Gold Cup (Cheltenham) last time out
    9/17 – Placed in the top 4 last time out
    6/17 – Aged in double-figures
    5/17 – Winning favourites (4 of the last 5)
    4/17 – Won by the Pipe stable
    4/6 – Won that season’s King George
    4/6 – Were the top-rated horse in the field
    15/36 (42%) winners were aged 10 or older
    25/36 (69%) winners ran in that season’s King George
    25/36 (69%) winners ran in that season’s Cheltenham Gold Cup
    13/23 (57%) winners were placed fourth or better in that season’s King George VI Chase
    Irish-trained winners are just 3-from-13 in the last 8 runnings
    8 of the last 10 winners were favourite or second favourite
    2nd or 3rd favourites have won 13 of the last 27 (48%) renewals and 6 of the last 10 (60%)
    4 of the last 9 winners had run in this race before
    No last-time out winner since 2010
    3 of the last 11 winners finished in the top 3 in that season’s Ladbrokes Trophy at Newbury

    TQ VERDICT: A cracking renewal and a race that all eyes will be on the two-time Grand National winner – TIGER ROLL. He’s bypassed a third tilt at the National on Saturday after some weight disagreements by his owners, but being rated 167 gets into this Grade One as the joint second top-rated. He proved his doubters wrong last time at Cheltenham when bouncing back to form to win the Cross Country again and despite his advancing years (11), he doesn’t want to seem to give up his racing. We know the track suits and the ground will be fine and we know the horse loves this time of year. With a few question marks over his nearest rivals I’ll take him to land another fairy tale success at his beloved Aintree. Clan Des Obeaux will be popular too and will be fresher than most after missing Cheltenham. However, despite running some solid races, the former King George winner has rather lost his way a bit in the last few years and his last win was his KG win back in 2019. He’s been beaten as favourite the last twice and could only manage second (beaten 9 lengths), in this race in 2019 too. Native River will try his heart out as always and is still to finish outside the first four from his 21 runs over fences. He’s got stamina to burn, but you just feel the ground would need to come up a bit softer for him to take this and with that put more emphasis on his proven stamina. But he is the top-rated in the field and looks sure to run his race. The fragile Waiting Patiently was an excellent second in the King George on Boxing Day and will have his supporters too, but his last win was now back in 2018 and might be destined for another place finish – he’s hit the first three in all bar one of this 12 starts over fences. Of the rest, Clondaw Castle has had a cracking season and improved around 11lbs since running second in the Old Roan Chase at this track in October. He’ll love the better ground and is another that falls into the ‘consistent’ bracket for each-way backers. Mister Fisher and Real Steal would also have the form to make a small claim, but both are heading here on recovery missions after being pulled-up the last twice.



    3.25PM – THE BETWAY AINTREE HURDLE GRADE 1 (CLASS 1) (4YO+) 2M4F ITV
    2019 Winner: SUPASUNDAE (15/2)
    Trainer: Mrs John Harrington
    Jockey: Robbie Power

    16/17 – Aged 8 or younger
    13/17 – Returned 6/1 or shorter in the betting
    13/17 – Ran at the Cheltenham Festival last time out
    11/17 – Placed in the top 4 last time out
    9/17 – Ran in the Champion Hurdle last time out
    9/17 – Irish-trained winners, plus 19 of the last 43
    5/17 – Winning favourites (2 joint)
    4/17 – Won last time out
    4/17 – Won by trainer Nicky Henderson (4 of the last 9)
    3/17 – Ridden by Barry Geraghty
    13 of the last 26 (50%) winners trained in Ireland
    29 of the last 43 (67%) winners ran in that season’s Champion Hurdle
    7 of the last 10 winners (70%) were placed in the top 4 of that season’s Champion Hurdle
    11 of the last 14 winners (including last 8) had won a Grade 1 before
    9 of the last 19 (47%) winners had won at this meeting before
    Only 5 Champion Hurdle winners since 1999 have run – but 3 won
    Every British-trained winner had raced at the Cheltenham Festival that season
    Just 2 winning 5 year-olds in the last 31 runnings
    Just 1 of the last 19 Champion Hurdle runner-ups to race have won

    TQ VERDICT: Plenty of chances here. Silver Streak is the top-rated in the field (163) and wasn’t disgraced last time out when 6th in the Champion Hurdle. However, this popular grey was a well-beaten fifth in the race in 2019 and has a bit to prove over this longer trip for me. The 2017 winner of this race – BUVEUR D’AIR (e/w) - would have been all the rage for this had he been a bit younger, but will still have his supporters, even at the age of 10. He had to miss Cheltenham in the end, but prior to that setback the reports coming out of the Henderson yard were positive. He’s still got a cracking record of 13 wins from 19 starts over hurdles and has only been out of the top three once from those races. Yes, he was beaten at Haydock back in January, but I feel the longer trip here will be more up his street now he’s a bit older and don’t forget that last run also came off a 420-day break. McFabulous should love this track and trip – he’s a past course winner – but he needs to bounce back from a below-par run at Fontwell last time. It’s possible the track didn’t suit that day, but he didn’t look happy a long way out. The horse that beat him that day BREWIN’UPASTORM, however, travelled really well and eventually won by an easy 5 ½ lengths. This Olly Murphy runner didn’t really take to fences, so the switch back to hurdles has looked a good move – winning his last two – plus he’s another that bypassed the Festival to head here fresh. He seems to have got a new lease of life and even though he was getting 6lbs off McFabulous last time, I think he can uphold that form. The Irish challenge is good too, with Henry De Bromhead and Rachael Blackmore teaming up with Jason The Militant. He was a G3 winner at Fairyhouse last time, when beating Petit Mouchoir easily, while is closely-matched with Abacadabras, after finishing a close third to that Denise Foster runner at Punchestown back in November. Of the rest, International Hurdle winner, Song For Someone, has the form to go well, but does need to bounce back from a poor run in the Kingwell Hurdle at Wincanton last time – beaten 22 lengths behind Goshen.



    4.05PM – THE ROSE PATERSON FOX HUNTERS´ CHASE (CLASS 2) (6YO+) 2M5F ITV1
    2019 Winner: TOP WOOD (14/1)
    Trainer: Kelly Morgan
    Jockey: Tabitha Worsley

    17/17 – Aged 9 or older (Just 2 of the last 34 winners were younger than 9)
    13/17 – Returned 13/2 or shorter in the betting
    14/17 – Aged in double-figures
    12/17 – Placed in the top 3 last time out
    7/17 – Won last time out
    7/17 – Ran in the Cheltenham Foxhunters’ last time out
    5/17 – Winning favourites (1 joint)
    3/17 – Ridden by Sam Waley-Cohen
    14 of the last 15 (93%) winners were aged 10 or older
    Irish-trained runners have won 4 of the last 6 runnings
    4 of the last 6 winners were placed in the top 4 in last season’s race
    19 of the last 27 (70%) winners went off favourite or second favourite
    22 of the last 27 winners had won a race earlier that season
    Only 2 of the last 36 winners were aged younger than 9
    22 of the last 27 (81%) winners came from the top 4 in the market and returned at single-figures in the betting.
    10 of the last 15 winners had run over these National-style fences before
    Ex-handicap horses have won 12 of the last 18 (67%) renewals

    TQ VERDICT: With only two of the last 34 winners aged 8 or younger, then this is a negative for Cat Tiger, Some Man and Latenightpass, who are all well-fancied in the betting. All eyes will be on the Cheltenham Foxhunters’ runner-up Billaway, and this consistent sort that’s been placed in the top three in 10 of his 11 chase starts will be high up on most people’s lists. But he also might not be much value and those against him will look to this being his first try over the National-style fences. Mighty Stowaway was only sixth in the Cheltenham version of this race and has 37 lengths to make up on Billaway, but with horses aged in double-figures having a fair record in this race I’ll take a chance on SAMETEGAL and DASHING PERK. The former is now a 12 year-old but is still in the care of Paul Nicholls. He actually beat the Cheltenham Foxhunter winner – Porlock Bay – at Wincanton back in Feb and probably didn’t enjoy the Fontwell track last time when beaten at odds on. He’s tasted the National fences in the past too, so that experience is a plus and will have an experienced jockey for a race like this in William Biddick. Dashing Perk, will also have a leading pilot with Sam Waley-Cohen doing the steering. This 10 year-old is lightly-raced for his age (8 runs over fences) and should be spot-on for this after a fair third at Wincanton last time out after 2 months out, while he’s also run well at the track in the past too. The final one to note, of those at bigger prices is the Donald McCain runner – FEDERICI (e/w). This 12 year-old has been a bit poor of late, but did win a race last October to show he still retains ability. But he’s run many times over these fences so that will help, plus he’s also got one of the best jockeys in the race riding in Derek O’Connor – that alone suggests he’s worth a small interest in a race that could cut up quite quickly with a lot of inexperienced jockeys riding.



    4.40PM – THE CLOSE BROTHERS RED RUM HANDICAP CHASE GRADE 3 (CLASS 1) (5YO+) 2M ITV
    2019 Winner: Moon Over Germany (11/2)
    Trainer: Henry De Bromhead
    Jockey: Rachael Blackmore

    16/17 – Aged 9 or younger
    15/17 – Carried 11-1 or less
    12/17 – Carried 10-13 or less
    12/17 – Priced 10/1 or shorter in the betting
    9/17 – Ran at the Cheltenham Festival last time out
    9/17 – Aged 7 or younger
    11/17 – Unplaced last time out
    4/17 – Winning favourites (1 co)
    3/17 – Won last time out
    2/17 – Irish-trained winner
    13 of the last 18 winners returned 10/1 or shorter in the betting
    11 of the last 19 winners were Novices (inc last 4)
    16 of the last 20 winners were rated 139 or lower
    Only 2 winners older than 9 years-old since 1988
    4 of the last 12 winners were ridden by conditional jockeys
    The top 5 in the betting have won 15 of the last 22 (68%) runnings
    18 of the last 20 (90%) winners carried 11-2 or less
    3 of the last 13 winners raced in the previous year’s race
    7 of the last 21 (33%) winners ran in that season’s Johnny Henderson Grand Annual (Cheltenham)
    5 of the last 6 winners DIDN’T run at the Cheltenham Festival that season
    The last 5 winners were Irish-bred
    Respect trainer Henry De Bromhead – winner 2019 and 3 placed horses

    TQ VERDICT: A very competitive renewal. The Paul Nicholls-trained Getaway Trump was a nice winner at Doncaster last time out and will be popular, but he’s not always been the most reliable and being up another 9lbs here, he’s not for me. Destrier, who is starting to look well-handicapped for Dan Skelton, and recent Sandown winner – Frero Banbou – are interesting, but the last-named is up a massive 13lbs for that recent win and with only 5 runs over fences might just lack the experience for a race like this. 18 of the last 20 winners carried 11-2 or less, so that might be seen as a negative for the top six on the racecard, including the 2019 winner – Moon Over Germany (De Bromhead) – who has 11-11 to carry and is rated 12lbs higher than that 2019 win. He does, however, have the useful Jordan Gainford riding to claim a handy 7lbs and that certainly makes him more interesting. De Bromhead also has the Rachael Blackmore-ridden Jan Moat in the race and despite some poor recent runs, you feel there is more to come from this 8 year-old. My two against the field though are ZANZA (e/w) and EDITEUR DU GITE (e/w). Yes, the former falls down on the weight trend with 11-8 to carry, but I feel he’s been unlucky the last twice. He fell at Cheltenham in December when still going well and the winner of that race – Sky Pirate – has since franked the form to win the Grand Annual. He was then badly hampered in the GA at the Festival last time and lost all chance so had to be pulled up. The better ground is fine and with a bit more luck in-running looks the sort to have more to offer over fences. Then Editeur Du Gite, is another that caught the eye last time when winning at Newbury. This Gary Moore runner is up 7lbs for that win, but still gets in here with just 10-9 to carry – that’s 13lbs less racing weight than last time. The better ground is a plus and with that being his first win over fences will be a lot more confident too. On The Slopes and Dostal Phil are others to respect.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    Here are some stats on trainers and jockeys that have found it hard to have winners at the festival. These are taken from 2010.

    0-77 Aidan Coleman
    0-32 Henry Brooke
    0-25 William Kennedy
    0-23 Richie McLernon
    1-52 (2%) Harry Skelton
    1-42 (2%) Denis O'Regan
    1-39 (3%) Nick Scholfield

    0-60 Venetia Williams
    0-22 Fergal O'Brien
    0-20 Kim Bailey
    0-17 Noel Meade
    0-16 Brian Ellison
    0-15 Lucy Wadham
    1-52 (2%) Dan Skelton
    1-45 (2%) Evan Williams
    1-40 (3%) Charlie Longsdon
    1-40 (3%) Rebecca Curtis

    Colin Tizzard has been by far the most profitable trainer to follow at this meeting over the years with a +101 to €1.00 stake. Be interesting to see how he gets on this year as his yard have been in such poor form for some time now. There was a bit of a revival at the start of the year but is currently on 1-28 4% for the past 14 days which wouldn't fill me with confidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    absolute league 2 racing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Aidan mentioned Moon Over Germany on Twitter yesterday at 14/1 yesterday. He is gone into 8/1 now today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Aidan mentioned Moon Over Germany on Twitter yesterday at 14/1 yesterday. He is gone into 8/1 now today.

    Fancy it myself, got it at 14s. Here's hoping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I've tried to ignore the Tiger tomorrow but I just can't. A small bet on him as he jas won me a fair few quid in the past. Jaysus would love to see him land a grade 1. Although the question will be will Kennedy be trying or is that O'Leary trying to get the handicap mark down for next year

    I'm on Moon Over Germany too didnt get the 14s though.

    Brewingupastorm too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    Going to have a few bets tomorrow on

    2:20 Monmaril
    2:50 Waiting Patiently
    3:25 Abracadabras
    4.05 Billaway
    4:40 Moon Over Germany
    5:15 Eileendover

    All to place 30/1 acca


    Will have singles on all the below
    1:45 Fusil Raffles 3/1
    2:50 Mister Fisher 8/1
    3:25 Buzz 14/1
    4.05 Dashing Perk 12/1
    4:40 Gaelic Coast 18/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Going to have a few bets tomorrow on

    2:20 Monmaril
    2:50 Waiting Patiently
    3:25 Abracadabras
    4.05 Billaway
    4:40 Moon Over Germany
    5:15 Eileendover

    All to place 30/1 acca


    Will have singles on all the below
    1:45 Fusil Raffles 3/1
    2:50 Mister Fisher 8/1
    3:25 Buzz 14/1
    4.05 Dashing Perk 12/1
    4:40 Gaelic Coast 18/1

    Just curious why you’d take a risk on Eileendover to place at tiny odds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭del roy


    4.40
    I also want to have a dart at one that doesn’t make the trends shortlist...

    JAN MAAT (H De Bromhead) this 8yo looks to have conditions to shoot for here...yielding or quicker ground | G3 level & below | Rachael Blackmore riding | NOT Very Undulating tracks = 612212621 (3/9, 4p)...and Henry De Bromhead has an excellent record at this meeting with his 6yo-8yo’s that race over 2m...11275315413 (4/11, 3p). There are also two pieces of ‘recent’ form from the horse that interest me; the first being his fall at Leopardstown over Xmas where he jumped the last for a share in the lead only to crash out on the landing side. He looked sure to be involved in the finish there and that race was run a good few pounds above par for the level, the race has also worked out well enough on future form with the winner winning again since and the 5th winning a valuable G2 handicap next time out. The second piece of form is his 10th in the 2020 Grand Annual at Cheltenham, a race where he turned the corner for home full of running and jumped into the lead over the second last, only to stumble badly on landing and lose his momentum. He faded up the hill, probably a combination of that mistake and the hill itself, but the run was much better than the finishing position suggests. He’ll appreciate this flatter track here and he looks interesting at bigger prices.

    From Narrowing the field (Ben)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    Just curious why you’d take a risk on Eileendover to place at tiny odds?

    No particular reason only that they are the horses I strongly feel will place. It’s an additional 4/5 to 1 to the odds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    Aintree Day 1

    1:45 - The Shunter has had a great season but he’s had a busy campaign and steps up to Grade 1 level here. Came down on the side of FUSIL RAFFLES to be best placed to win after a good second in the Marsh.

    2:20 - I thought ADAGIO’s form from Cheltenham behind Quixilios was the strongest. With the top two in the betting both around even money, there isn’t much value to be had but Adagio was my idea of the most likely winner.

    2:50 - Hard to predict how Tiger Roll will take to these fences again, but his record around Aintree is phenomenal and he looked back to his best at Cheltenham. Would love to see him win, but it will be more of a race to watch than to get too stuck in betting wise for me.

    3:25 - Jason the Millitant could be very talented and while he’s not proven over the distance, he could be a worthy favourite. Chance is taken on BUVEUR D’AIR e/w coming here today somewhere close to his best where he’s a previous winner and runner up here two years ago.

    4:05 - SAMETEGAL at 5/1 jumped out here with his win over subsequent Cheltenham winner Porlock Bay two starts ago and some decent previous runs over the fences tilting it in his favour.

    4:40 - Chance is taken on FRERO BANBOU e/w to have another step forward in him.

    5:15 - Seems to be a lot of confidence in the favourite but based on the two market leaders’ form over Grangee, there’s doesn’t seem to be a lot between them. For that reason, if ELLE EST BELLE comes on from the Cheltenham run, I’m hoping she can go on to win here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    1.45 The shunter 11/4
    2.50 waiting patiently 7/2
    3.25 Abacadabras 9/2
    4.05 Billaway 3/1

    4.40 Moon over germany and sully doc aa 8/1 and 12/1

    5.15 absolute dog turd race and don't rate the favourites form at all , would rather chance dan "whinger" skeltons bang average yoke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭FiftyP


    1.45 - Hitman – 11/4
    2.20 – Adagio – 7//4
    2.50 - Clondaw Castle – 9/1 ew 3 places
    3.25 - Not So Sleepy – 33/1 ew 3 places
    4.05 – Risk And Roll – 33/1 ew 5 places
    4.40 – The King of May – 25/1 4 places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    The Shunter
    Monmiral
    Mr Fisher
    Abacadabras
    Gaelik Coast ew....The King of May ew


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Treble
    Adagio
    Clan Des Obeaux
    Eileendover

    Lucky15 and ew accum
    Fusil Raffles
    McFabulous
    Grey Diamond
    Some Man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭deeks


    Find it hard to have too strong an opinion on some of the races here when we don't know how some of them have come out of Cheltenham so I've looked for something at long odds in the last couple of races to have an interest in.

    4.40 The King of May at 25/1 could outrun his odds here. Fairly strong form all year on heavy ground and judging on his past runs the better ground he encounters here today might be more suitable.

    5.15 Paddy Power paying 4 places on this and the top two being so short should mean there's something at nice odds could be placed. Glimpse of Gala has yet to win but finished 7th behind Elle Est Belle in a listed race at Cheltenham earlier in the season and was only beaten about 8 lengths. At 100/1 she might give me a run for my money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭FiftyP


    I like the look of Umbrigado in the parade ring. Some good wins for him, and he's being ignored by the market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Morleystreet


    Ballyandy looks big price at 66/1 so ew bet there for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    the shunter jumped like a pool table


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭piplip87


    The Shutters jumping really let him down still came second shows how weak the English horses are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    Aidan tipped that protketorat and only backed it because of him. pays for the day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Ballyandy looks big price at 66/1 so ew bet there for me.




    Actually did a sneakily ew double with him and ASO at 40/1 both 4 places with sky . Both could definitely struggle into a palce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    jeez sudamore has made a mess of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Frozen Veg


    Clan des obeaux for the three in a row for Fergie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Enjoyed Rubys little pop at AP earlier after McCoy said he was glad Tiger Roll wasn't in the national because if he won they'd be comparing him to Red Rum. "Sadly Sir Anthony, someday somebody is going to ride more winners than you too. Maybe that's why you're happy Richard Johnson retired!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Fergie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    absolute state of the ****e running in england


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Job done for Jack there. I'd say he will have free flights for life after that 😉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    For all the talk about Toger Roll etc, his owners are broadly correct I think. Beaten 92 lengths, 48 lengths behind the horse who was best British trained finisher in the Gold Cup.
    Good ride actually, he hit an early fence and was a bit careful afterwards. Rode to claim his best possible finish position, which he did I thought. No enquiries needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    actually thought the eegit was gonna throw it away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Rachael rightly praised for all her good work lately will be embarrassed by that unseat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Rabbit Redux


    The O'Learys should send a few quid to the connections of the loose horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Rachael rightly praised for all her good work lately will be embarrassed by that unseat.

    Actually happened before horse took off, jinked on approach, put brakes on and her right foot came out of the stirrups. No chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    people will say Buveur D’air has run a stormer but he really hasn't he would have lapped these in his pomp he deserves a nice retirement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭GillLebowski


    Milanative wrote: »
    people will say Buveur D’air has run a stormer but he really hasn't he would have lapped these in his pomp he deserves a nice retirement

    What a load of boll*cks... Apart from the last two hurdles he was like poetry in motion. One of the best hurdlers I've ever seen, just ran a bit keen, especially when Rachael unseated. Ran well and will undoubtedly still be in the picture over 2m in most races he enters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Milanative


    What a load of boll*cks... Apart from the last two hurdles he was like poetry in motion. One of the best hurdlers I've ever seen, just ran a bit keen, especially when Rachael unseated. Ran well and will undoubtedly still be in the picture over 2m in most races he enters.
    you are an actual moron if you think that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Mick Fitz must surely have a video of some producer having sex with a child. Has to have some sort of leverage on someone to be so widely used and be so brutal on television


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭GillLebowski


    Milanative wrote: »
    you are an actual moron if you think that

    You're a real great addition to the forum, I hope you have such great insights into the next 2 days at Aintree too :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What a pilot is Blackmore.. About the only jockey I'm happy for when she wins (as long as she don't beat my selection :D) , even if I aint bet on her (I didn't)

    Another hype-job Eileendover beat into a moderate 4th :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    What a pilot is Blackmore.. About the only jockey I'm happy for when she wins (as long as she don't beat my selection :D) , even if I aint bet on her (I didn't)

    Another hype-job Eileendover beat into a moderate 4th :D

    Great win for her after her fall earlier. I didn’t really notice her during the race as my eye was drawn to Elle Est Belle who was my selection. Was disappointed to see her beaten but, as you said, you have to be happy for Rachael!


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Great win for her after her fall earlier. I didn’t really notice her during the race as my eye was drawn to Elle Est Belle who was my selection. Was disappointed to see her beaten but, as you said, you have to be happy for Rachael!


    Wasn't really watching the race myself, as only had telly on in background... Just watched a few of the earlier races, and made a cup of tea when the bumper was on... Saw the finish, but didn't even know what jockey was aboard until the commentator mentioned her.... Purposely didn't look at the form for that race; lest I thought either Eileen or Elle Est were good things... :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Captain Becher


    Great day. Known Joe O'Shea for 30 years. A real character. Brilliant to see a man who really knows and loves his racing winning on the big stage.


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