Reaction to the prime time antibiotics piece

Banana Republic 1

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Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Reactions please.

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K.G.

The final figure of 53 non compliance in 17000 tests really says it.this was not about food safety,it was a negotiation tactic.i wont say anymore

patsy_mccabe

I just can't get over that cow only having one tag.

893bet

Rubbish and misdirection

Skipduke

Blown out of proportion. If you have a sick aul cow you need antibiotics not an interrogation

SuperTortoise

Larry and the supermarkets must be getting worried, the price of beef has crept up a few cent in the last couple of months.

carrollsno1

Saw the preview and left it at that.

longgonesilver

53 non compliance cases out of a total of roughly 1.75 million slaughtered shows the low level of non compliance.

Some of the 17000 tests taken would not have been random either. The Dept would have suspected non compliance.

A reaction to the piece? In any industry you will find a number of individuals who are willing to cut corners with regulations. Is it widespread? not as far as I know.

With my own vets it is difficult to get anything even for cohorts, for an animal unseen, not a hope.

carrollsno1

A fw interesting views on the IFDF facebook page.

BENDYBINN

More money for the vets.........

patsy_mccabe

Around here now, vets won't give out bottles.

893bet

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Around here now, vets won't give out bottles.

Bottles of what?

amacca

I dont see them doing an expose of terrible advice given out by advisors to farmers which seems to me to have resulted in intensification and long term trend of poorer prices for the majority by the likes of teagasc etc

or a proper investigation of why farms dont seem to benefit farmers much anymore but just seem to be there to supply a steady income to any number of asscociated businesses etc etc

on the one hand farms are seemingly the major culprit in environmental damage yet on the other hand the powers that be have almost conspired to make that so on the larger industrial farms...do an investigative piece on that.....highlight all the other things that seem at least to me to be much more damaging to environment and the industry while you are at it and then lets talk etc

why more of an effort isnt made to market our beef as the quality product it is etc

seems easier to send an undercover vet into a pharmacy up north and and whip up an animal medicines scare than actually take on a real investigative piece

patsy_mccabe

893bet wrote: »

Bottles of what?

Poitín. ........ Ah no, antibiotics.

893bet

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Poitín. ........ Ah no, antibiotics.

Really?

As in a bottle of betamox or LA Alymcin or what not?

How do you work so? Do you have to call vet?

patsy_mccabe

893bet wrote: »

Really?

As in a bottle of betamox or LA Alymcin or what not?

How do you work so? Do you have to call vet?

You have to get Vet to prescribe or rather advise on them. You have to give tag no too when collecting. Is it not law now that all antibiotics have to be prescribed?

I see the other side to be fair. I've seen lads here locally give any bit of a leftover bottle, without even knowing what was in it. Dirty needle off the wall and all that.

Gawddawggonnit

K.G. wrote: »

The final figure of 53 non compliance in 17000 tests really says it.this was not about food safety,it was a negotiation tactic.i wont say anymore

What negotiations?

Welding Rod

They didn’t do much of an expose on the non social distanced retirement party in RTÉ. At the time they were tearing strips out of politicians etc, for their handling of Covid, but the stupid fkkers, put Facebook posts up about their party, and most of them above on top of one another.
Did heads roll? Did they fkukk?
Did they hound Sean O’Rourke after his hob nobbing golfgate weekend with the learned judge and company? Did they fkukk?
Did they ever do a root and branch analysis of RTÉ salary’s, and the value for money given to the tax payer? Did they fkukk?

K.G.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

What negotiations?

Currently there are discussions to separate the prescription of drugs from the supply so the vets prescribe and you buy your prescription from a separate supplier. The idea is that is anti competitive as its set up at the moment

893bet

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You have to get Vet to prescribe or rather advise on them. You have to give tag no too when collecting. Is it not law now that all antibiotics have to be prescribed? .

That’s not quite the same as “not being able to get a bottle”. You can get a bottle as long as it’s prescribed. Same in every practice?

bosallagh88

Can you watch on catchup?

paddysdream

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You have to get Vet to prescribe or rather advise on them. You have to give tag no too when collecting. Is it not law now that all antibiotics have to be prescribed?

I see the other side to be fair. I've seen lads here locally give any bit of a leftover bottle, without even knowing what was in it. Dirty needle off the wall and all that.

Once I say its for sheep no tag no. ever needed or looked for .Works unless its a bovine specific drug ie not licenced in Ireland for sheep.
Think vet has to see your stock once a year to allow them to prescribe for you .Herd test covers that for cattle .
Think prescribing rules are tightening up from next January.

Gawddawggonnit

K.G. wrote: »

Currently there are discussions to separate the prescription of drugs from the supply so the vets prescribe and you buy your prescription from a separate supplier. The idea is that is anti competitive as its set up at the moment

Great idea.
We’re being fleeced here. Priced Eprinex last week and they’re looking for €780+ vat for 5L...because they can!
Scandalous gouging.

amacca

amacca wrote: »

I dont see them doing an expose of terrible advice given out by advisors to farmers which seems to me to have resulted in intensification and long term trend of poorer prices for the majority by the likes of teagasc etc

or a proper investigation of why farms dont seem to benefit farmers much anymore but just seem to be there to supply a steady income to any number of asscociated businesses etc etc

on the one hand farms are seemingly the major culprit in environmental damage yet on the other hand the powers that be have almost conspired to make that so on the larger industrial farms...do an investigative piece on that.....highlight all the other things that seem at least to me to be much more damaging to environment and the industry while you are at it and then lets talk etc

why more of an effort isnt made to market our beef as the quality product it is etc

seems easier to send an undercover vet into a pharmacy up north and and whip up an animal medicines scare than actually take on a real investigative piece

Well said.