Neighbour problem

Local fella has rented a parcel next door to one of mine. The fencing isn't great - it's just about stock proof - so I wasn't making an issue of it until he started taking the piss. The bones of it is he allows and tbh facilitates his stock getting onto my land, not just from the rented parcel but any other direction also.

He has form in the locality for this kind of thing, I can think of 4 or 5 other places he's at it.

I've had words with his landlord and himself. He's moved the stock from the rented parcel, but he bounds me in other ways too so my grass is still being eaten.

I've bought quite a bit of fencing material, and his landlord who has a blind spot where this fella is concerned has agreed to go 50/50 on our joint fence which is fair enough.

I'm starting putting up the new fence tomorrow, 1 row barbed, 3ft sheep wire, 2 barbed on top, creosote posts for making strainer assemblies and tanalised trash for intermediates.

Question is, after the fencing is done, if this continues what's the cute next move?

Dozer1

One option is remove the gates on your own piece lads do it around here at times when local horses are an issue not ideal but it can be useful option

Say my name

Don't be worrying yourself about his next move. You've already gotten a fairly substantial win by the landlord next door going halves on the fencing.
Just get the fencing done and keep on terms with your landlord neighbour and after qe cera cera.

I'm saying this as I've a sheep farming neighbour whose sheep regularly broke in here. After calls to the house and phone calls it was getting tedious..even broke in before silage was ready to cut. That and ponies of my father's broke in over the ditch to his place one time (emphasis on one time from my side) and I got the phone call back. So to hell with it I bought a stakedriver, stakes, sheep wire and barbwire and fenced my own side of the ditch.
His sheep are still coming in over the ditch in places but at least they're staying there and not into the field.

It's a pity you can't go cresoted on the whole lot of stakes and be done with it too.

Dozer1

Dozer1 wrote: »

One option is remove the gates on your own piece lads do it around here at times when local horses are an issue not ideal but it can be useful option

You'd laugh, they're like homing pigeons. I've put them out many times in several directions. They're back 30 minutes later without fail.

Say my name wrote: »

Don't be worrying yourself about his next move. You've already gotten a fairly substantial win by the landlord next door going halves on the fencing.
Just get the fencing done and keep on terms with your landlord neighbour and after qe cera cera.

I'm saying this as I've a sheep farming neighbour whose sheep regularly broke in here. After calls to the house and phone calls it was getting tedious..even broke in before silage was ready to cut. That and ponies of my father's broke in over the ditch to his place one time (emphasis on one time from my side) and I got the phone call back. So to hell with it I bought a stakedriver, stakes, sheep wire and barbwire and fenced my own side of the ditch.
His sheep are still coming in over the ditch in places but at least they're staying there and not into the field.

It's a pity you can't go cresoted on the whole lot of stakes and be done with it too.

His landlord is a decent sort, I actually went to him first as I wouldn't give the other lad the satisfaction - until I met him by chance one day, then I did. I'd go all creosote if I knew his tenant was paying, but he won't be. You're probably right, I lapse the odd time and get to thinking :cool:

epfff

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You'd laugh, they're like homing pigeons. I've put them out many times in several directions. They're back 30 minutes later without fail.



His landlord is a decent sort, I actually went to him first as I wouldn't give the other lad the satisfaction - until I met him by chance one day, then I did. I'd go all creosote if I knew his tenant was paying, but he won't be. You're probably right, I lapse the odd time and get to thinking :cool:

I have simular problem on out farm. Landlord won't go halves with me fencing. So I put up electric fence with solar panel myside before I let cattle out. Now his cattle to run throughthe fence and break daily because they had being grazing all winter. Then when they see me they pick another spot to break the fence in to get back.

It's difficult situation as I have no interest in spend money going to court to get nothing except a laugh for all surrounding (blood out of stone/laws are only for those that want to them in this country}
Thinking of starting to set the deer rifle on that piece of land. But I know its not right either.

Dinzee Conlee

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You'd laugh, they're like homing pigeons. I've put them out many times in several d directions. They're back 30 minutes later without fail.



His landlord is a decent sort, I actually went to him first as I wouldn't give the other lad the satisfaction - until I met him by chance one day, then I did. I'd go all creosote if I knew his tenant was paying, but he won't be. You're probably right, I lapse the odd time and get to thinking :cool:

How far away is the landlord, and does he have any sheds or the like?
Could you bring the sheep to the landlords - make your problem his problem?

Could you / would you report the lad renting to the dept for sheep breaking out?

Dinzee Conlee

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

How far away is the landlord, and does he have any sheds or the like?
Could you bring the sheep to the landlords - make your problem his problem?

Could you / would you report the lad renting to the dept for sheep breaking out?

Landlord is just down the road, he's had his own health problems. Like I said he's genuinely a decent skin, I think I'd be putting myself in the wrong tipping the lads ewes out onto his lawn tbh.

There's an exception to every rule, and this lad is flying as close to it as anyone ever has with me, but no, I won't be reporting him. I might reconsider after the fencing is done, he's had a run in with the cops over this same shyte with an old man lately.

Bass Reeves

If you can load them up carry them 20-50 miles away to forrestry and dump them off there. I remember when I was young a neighbour has a similar problem with a lad bounding him. He used to slaughter a few of your man's sheep until the lad copped himself on. He went so far as he was nearly giving the meat away.

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you can load them up carry them 20-50 miles away to forrestry and dump them off there. I remember when I was young a neighbour has a similar problem with a lad bounding him. He used to slaughter a few of your man's sheep until the lad copped himself on. He went so far as he was nearly giving the meat away.

I gave up complaining to neighbours about fencing years ago, I just fence it myself now. Sheep farmers have to do that any way.
I did the whole place over the 1990s and unfortunately am having to replace all the stakes over the last 5 years, it's unlikely I'll have to do it again

Nekarsulm

wrangler wrote: »

I did the whole place over the 1990s and unfortunately am having to replace all the stakes over the last 5 years, it's unlikely I'll have to do it again

Ah now Wrangler, let's hope there's another 5 years in you...
That's when you'll be replacing them again, if you used the typical "tanalised" posts..

FintanMcluskey

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you can load them up carry them 20-50 miles away to forrestry and dump them off there. I remember when I was young a neighbour has a similar problem with a lad bounding him. He used to slaughter a few of your man's sheep until the lad copped himself on. He went so far as he was nearly giving the meat away.

Mad you say that.

A next door neighbour of mine, a guy with a real gentle demeanour had issues for months with rogue sheep roaming his land. This guy was a real quite type so we thought nothing would ever get more sinister.

No amount of pleading with the animals owner made any difference.

We got chops for the freezer a few weeks later!

J.O. Farmer

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Mad you say that.

A next door neighbour of mine, a guy with a real gentle demeanour had issues for months with rogue sheep roaming his land. This guy was a real quite type so we thought nothing would ever get more sinister.

No amount of pleading with the animals owner made any difference.

We got chops for the freezer a few weeks later!

Was this like the horses head in the godfather as in did you own the sheep.

1373

A neighbor of mine was having real problems with a herd of straying cattle ( 40 in total) . Dropped a few bags of urea in the adjoining field , cut them open and rang the owner to let him know what was waiting for cattle next time . Problem for him sorted.

Bass Reeves

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Was this like the horses head in the godfather as in did you own the sheep.

Some lads will take the p!as with letting animals such as horses, sheep and cattle stray. Not only will they make no attempt to sort the issue they may even be a willingness to let it continue. Most people suffering from this will try legal routes to sort it. However as they said in the old west for every Billy the Kid there is a Pat Garrett.

All our cattle can break now and again. However most will make an attempt to sort it. It's lads that make other life a misery often meet a Pat Garrett type guy. It relatively easy to butcher a sheep and often a owner will not realize the issue until there is a few gone. They then realize a bit of fencing is cheap

J.O. Farmer

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Some lads will take the p!as with letting animals such as horses, sheep and cattle stray. Not only will they make no attempt to sort the issue they may even be a willingness to let it continue. Most people suffering from this will try legal routes to sort it. However as they said in the old west for every Billy the Kid there is a Pat Garrett.

All our cattle can break now and again. However most will make an attempt to sort it. It's lads that make other life a misery often meet a Pat Garrett type guy. It relatively easy to butcher a sheep and often a owner will not realize the issue until there is a few gone. They then realize a bit of fencing is cheap

I understood why he did it, just wondering did he drop chops to owner of the sheep. Be kinda funny if he did.

I've had sheep breaking out and have made efforts to fix it. I've spent a fair bit upgrading fences as getting sheep back is more work I don't need.

Bass Reeves

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I understood why he did it, just wondering did he drop chops to owner of the sheep. Be kinda funny if he did.

I've had sheep breaking out and have made efforts to fix it. I've spent a fair bit upgrading fences as getting sheep back is more work I don't need.

That would really drive the point home especially if you had no sheep

Track9

Perhaps some version of my episode with thieving horses might work.
Had a similar problem with horses, being put in during the winter months.
Though I was told we had such B & B guests, was difficult to find them on the ground.
One very early morning ( 5 am ) I found the horses munching away.
I put them in a small yard to stop them rotavating the fields & put a chain & lock on every gate all around this yard, so they wouldn't be stolen.................they were locked in.
For a few days, I fed them hay & took them water ( after all I was concerned for the horse's welfare )
Finally, the owner appeared to collect them & agreed they would not be in the area anymore.
Haven't seen them since that day.

Bass Reeves

Track9 wrote: »

Perhaps some version of my episode with thieving horses might work.
Had a similar problem with horses, being put in during the winter months.
Though I was told we had such B & B guests, was difficult to find them on the ground.
One very early morning ( 5 am ) I found the horses munching away.
I put them in a small yard to stop them rotavating the fields & put a chain & lock on every gate all around this yard, so they wouldn't be stolen.................they were locked in.
For a few days, I fed them hay & took them water ( after all I was concerned for the horse's welfare )
Finally, the owner appeared to collect them & agreed they would not be in the area anymore.
Haven't seen them since that day.

Was that a promise sur

Track9

Not being officious.
I said I would not charge for keeping the horses for the four days.
Would only release the horses on condition they would not be in the area in the future.
Haven't seen the horses since.

older by the day

Track9 wrote: »

Not being officious.
I said I would not charge for keeping the horses for the four days.
Would only release the horses on condition they would not be in the area in the future.
Haven't seen the horses since.

Ya that's probably the best solution. An uncle of mine did that one time, drove the cattle into a house and the neighbour had to come for them. He had to pay for there b&b.