Advice on tall fencing

hadoken13

Hi,


Will be building a house over the never year or so and we are first looking to put up tall fencing around three sides of our property - 1.3 acres with about 350m total length of the three sides. We need the height to be approx 1.7 - 2m.



The reason for such a high fence, is one of our dogs jumped over another high fence. However, this was most likely due to being locked up in a small run as once he was out into the larger garden (about an acre) he doesn't look to get out - one of the sides of this garden only has a 3 - 4 foot high fence and he never once jumped over it, even with the dog the far side barking at him. But we don't want to take a risk as there is cattle in a field on one side, alternate years, and another property on the other side.


We are considering 1.9m high deer fencing (something similar to https://www.mcnamarafencing.ie/superknot-deer-fence/), rather than the usual chainlink fencing, with possibly 200mm in the ground and then 3m posts with 1.3m in the ground. We can't really put up an electric fence on the neighbour's side. There will eventually be tress/hedging against the fence, but that could take a good few years to grow.



Any suggestions on alternatives or if this would suit would be great.



Thanks

148multi

hadoken13 wrote: »

Hi,


Will be building a house over the never year or so and we are first looking to put up tall fencing around three sides of our property - 1.3 acres with about 350m total length of the three sides. We need the height to be approx 1.7 - 2m.



The reason for such a high fence, is one of our dogs jumped over another high fence. However, this was most likely due to being locked up in a small run as once he was out into the larger garden (about an acre) he doesn't look to get out - one of the sides of this garden only has a 3 - 4 foot high fence and he never once jumped over it, even with the dog the far side barking at him. But we don't want to take a risk as there is cattle in a field on one side, alternate years, and another property on the other side.


We are considering 1.9m high deer fencing (something similar to https://www.mcnamarafencing.ie/superknot-deer-fence/), rather than the usual chainlink fencing, with possibly 200mm in the ground and then 3m posts with 1.3m in the ground. We can't really put up an electric fence on the neighbour's side. There will eventually be tress/hedging against the fence, but that could take a good few years to grow.



Any suggestions on alternatives or if this would suit would be great.



Thanks

Well given that hight someone could take exception to it and you may have to look for planning, will a collar fence not work.

Bass Reeves

It was unlikely that he jumped over a wire fence. I imagine that he jumped over a fence made of timber panels or a wall. He el never jump a 4' wire fence. The reason being jumping a timber fence or wall once the dog gets his front legs on top of the wall he can use his hind legs to climb the wall solid fence. He cannot do this with a wire fence.
If you want to put up concrete posts and chain length fence it's 4' high. The other option is a radio collar.

What breed if dog is he

Good loser

Would agree with Bass - a 4 ft fence should do.
The 2m fence would be ungainly and unsightly.

cjpm

Good loser wrote: »

Would agree with Bass - a 4 ft fence should do.
The 2m fence would be ungainly and unsightly.

As well as daylight robbery. It’s a dog you’re keeping in, not deer you’re keeping out

hadoken13

148multi wrote: »

Well given that hight someone could take exception to it and you may have to look for planning, will a collar fence not work.

Isn't it up to 2m before you need planning? Won't be going with a collar fence. A neighbour had one and their dog kept running straight under it (at the front gate) and then ran onto a road and was knocked down by a car.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It was unlikely that he jumped over a wire fence. I imagine that he jumped over a fence made of timber panels or a wall. He el never jump a 4' wire fence. The reason being jumping a timber fence or wall once the dog gets his front legs on top of the wall he can use his hind legs to climb the wall solid fence. He cannot do this with a wire fence.
If you want to put up concrete posts and chain length fence it's 4' high. The other option is a radio collar.

What breed if dog is he

You wouldn't believe it until you saw it, but it was a Golden Retriever of all dogs, and it would run up to the wire fence and get over it - 6' fence! Saying that, a tree fell on a side of the fence and loosened the wire to probably bring it down to 5'. That piece of the fence was fixed but he still got over another 6' side. Although the mesh wasn't tight enough so would bend down a bit. Once he knew he could get over he kept doing it until a piece was added to the top all around the run.



Our fear is we build a 4' fence then he gets out and we end up building a taller one. We will have trees eventually around the border so a 1.8m high fence won't be seen in a few years anyway.

What age is the dog? Golden retriever from about age 5/6 will be incapable of jumping a fence like that due to hip degeneration typical of the breed.

hadoken13

Aryan Victorious Windbag wrote: »

What age is the dog? Golden retriever from about age 5/6 will be incapable of jumping a fence like that due to hip degeneration typical of the breed.

He was about 3ish at the time. Almost 5 now but hasn't been in that run in over a year and a half. He was in the run with a border collie who I would have expected to be the one jumping.


I think we would probably get away with a 4' fence as it is a much bigger garden rather than a run.

hadoken13

hadoken13 wrote: »

He was about 3ish at the time. Almost 5 now but hasn't been in that run in over a year and a half. He was in the run with a border collie who I would have expected to be the one jumping.


I think we would probably get away with a 4' fence as it is a much bigger garden rather than a run.

I think you would as well, he would be happy enough in the garden, will probably just want to follow around any humans in the house. Golden retrievers never wander really, and if there is an issue just feed the dog at regular intervals throughout the day and he will never go far and risk missing his dinner

hadoken13

Aryan Victorious Windbag wrote: »

I think you would as well, he would be happy enough in the garden, will probably just want to follow around any humans in the house. Golden retrievers never wander really, and if there is an issue just feed the dog at regular intervals throughout the day and he will never go far and risk missing his dinner

That is one thing those dogs love - food .

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Bass Reeves wrote: »

It was unlikely that he jumped over a wire fence. I imagine that he jumped over a fence made of timber panels or a wall. He el never jump a 4' wire fence. The reason being jumping a timber fence or wall once the dog gets his front legs on top of the wall he can use his hind legs to climb the wall solid fence. He cannot do this with a wire fence.
If you want to put up concrete posts and chain length fence it's 4' high. The other option is a radio collar.

What breed if dog is he

https://youtu.be/NNfm0mo0y18

Ive seen sheepdogs clear 4ft fences without even touching it

hadoken13

Thought I'd provide an update.

We went with or are going with horse fencing in the end. 5' tall with a 6" lat board on the top, comes to about 5'4" tall. Having the lat board on top will allow us to add wire on top if needed, for a lot cheaper than going with a 6' or higher deer fence.

Mooooo

hadoken13 wrote: »

Thought I'd provide an update.

We went with or are going with horse fencing in the end. 5' tall with a 6" lat board on the top, comes to about 5'4" tall. Having the lat board on top will allow us to add wire on top if needed, for a lot cheaper than going with a 6' or higher deer fence.

Where did you source it?

hadoken13

A contractor in South Leinster. He will be providing the materials and installing the fencing. Did contact a few farmers to see if they hire out hydraulic fence post systems (or themselves with the gear) and couldn't get anyone so thought may as well get a professional.