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Who is responsible for fire safety standards

  • 31-03-2021 7:58am
    #1
    Shedite27
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    Hi, currently building an extension using a party wall with a neighbour. I’ve an architect who designed it and an engineer who designed the steelworks. Architect has told me the engineer should ensure the structure collies with fire safety standard, and engineer has said “architect to confirm it complies with fire safety standard”.

    Who should make the final call on this? Obviously as homeowner I hold end responsibility for how to instruct the builder, but I’m unsure whose advice to follow


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  • #2
    DOCARCH
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    Have you engaged both the architect and engineer for the construction stages of the project?


  • #3
    Shedite27
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Have you engaged both the architect and engineer for the construction stages of the project?

    Yes architect did the drawings for planning permission, engineer is doing the structural drawing now before we start the build


  • #4
    sydthebeat
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    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Yes architect did the drawings for planning permission, engineer is doing the structural drawing now before we start the build

    and whos signing off construction stage?


  • #5
    Shedite27
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    and whos signing off construction stage?

    Engineer will be doing the certification, does that answer my question?


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    Gumbo
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    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Engineer will be doing the certification, does that answer my question?

    Yes in my opinion.
    Steel needs to be fire proofed depending on what part of the building it’s holding up. The penetration into the party wall should be avoided.

    I hope the party wall is solid block on the flat!


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  • #7
    DOCARCH
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    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Engineer will be doing the certification, does that answer my question?

    Did anybody do construction drawings/specifications?

    If architect only did design/planning drawings, and if engineer is doing 'sign off' for you, then I would suggest engineers responsibility to make sure the works comply with the building regulations.


  • #8
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Engineer will be doing the certification, does that answer my question?

    yes

    ask the engineer to include for applicable fire proofing in his spec of the steel


  • #9
    Shedite27
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    Gumbo wrote: »
    Yes in my opinion.
    Steel needs to be fire proofed depending on what part of the building it’s holding up. The penetration into the party wall should be avoided.

    I hope the party wall is solid block on the flat!

    Thanks, yes will be 215 solid block on flat.


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