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Flat wheel from knocking kerb

  • 30-03-2021 9:25pm
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    Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭


    knocked wheel off kerb pulling in (at very moderate speed)

    was flat soon after

    put on spare wheel

    is wheel that is flat likely to be a simple repair?

    hopefully not looking at a new tyre.

    might pump it up to see if it holds pressure overnight?
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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It won't hold pressure if it just went flat.
    Likely tyre and/or wheel is damaged.... Sidewalk damage on tyre isn't repairable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Easy to check with a mix of fairy liquid and water and spray around tyre and rim .Bubbles/frothing will show where the issue is or tyre wont inflate slice and dice.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    it's a tubeless radial on an alloy

    upon pumping air coming out at a point under alloy

    could it be "unseated" off alloy and just needs to be reseated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    There all tubeless now and rely on tyre to seal on the rim. Alloys are soft and bends easy.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    need to find somewhere to take the tyre off and have a look I suppose.

    will try to avoid the franchise outlets if possible as there is only one way that will go with them even before you walk in the door


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Tyre in boot go to garage with tyre gauge and pump it up then you should know if there is more to deal with.
    Sliced tyre you need a new one.

    Damaged rim is different and needs professional repair.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    greasepalm wrote: »
    Tyre in boot go to garage with tyre gauge and pump it up then you should know if there is more to deal with.
    Sliced tyre you need a new one.

    Damaged rim is different and needs professional repair.

    all possible of course but is it also possible that the tyre has come off the seal and it's could be just required to reseat the bead correctly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Yes possible to just reflate tyre to 60psi to get it to pop back on, once back on deflate to correct pressure.

    If tyre is off the rim you will easily see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Augeo wrote: »
    Sidewalk damage on tyre isn't repairable.
    Ah, what would we do without these nuggets of internet wisdom :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah, what would we do without these nuggets of internet wisdom :rolleyes:

    Haha welcome back old friend :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Is there any sign of sidewall damage where it's leaking? If not overinflating as was suggested earlier might pop it back into place. Getting a tube put in could be another solution. It all depends on the condition of the sidewall. Please don't be tempted to chance it, I had one blowout in my life and it was the single most scary motoring incident I ever had.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Is there any sign of sidewall damage where it's leaking? If not overinflating as was suggested earlier might pop it back into place. Getting a tube put in could be another solution. It all depends on the condition of the sidewall. Please don't be tempted to chance it, I had one blowout in my life and it was the single most scary motoring incident I ever had.

    No sign of any damage at all anywhere that I can see having had a close look.

    Before I go to a tyre shop is it worth going to a fuel station and try to pump it up then?

    Only got the four tyres changed last year and have done very little mileage since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭whodafunk


    Yep the Mrs did this to our car in the past! No visible damage but tyre needed to be replaced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    For safety no harm in getting it checked it as it will be in your mind is it ok. Photos would have helped to see without guessing.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have now found a nick - just over a centimetre long - just under the R in 45R

    air will come out through that when inflated.

    was difficult to see unless very bright light shone on it

    is that game over for this tyre...?

    CvNow1E.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Its a slice in sidewall needing a new tyre if air is escaping from it its scrapped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    glasso wrote: »
    Have now found a nick - just over a centimetre long - just under the R in 45R

    air will come out through that when inflated.

    was difficult to see unless very bright light shone on it

    is that game over for this tyre...?

    CvNow1E.png

    Not good unfortunately. Why does it always happen with a brand new tyre.. If you had a aul kojak tyre ready for a silage pit nothing like that would happen. Most bloody annoying...


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    Have now found a nick - just over a centimetre long - just under the R in 45R................

    is that game over for this tyre...?

    ...............

    As said yesterday..............
    Augeo wrote: »
    ............... Sidewalk damage on tyre isn't repairable.
    Ah, what would we do without these nuggets of internet wisdom :rolleyes:

    Some folk don't seem to know ;)


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Augeo wrote: »
    As said yesterday..............


    Some folk don't seem to know ;)

    there was no evidence of any damage at that point.

    I was looking for actual advice - not to make some "internet hero" win the internet argument in his head.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    there was no evidence of any damage at that point.

    ..........

    After hitting a kerb the tyre went flat, it was fairly likely there was sidewall damage tbh
    My last comment was directed at the chap that replied "Ah, what would we do without these nuggets of internet wisdom" to my comment. I wasn't directing that at you.

    I've given you advice, that tyre can't be repaired.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    As Augeo said, sidewall damage isn't repairable.
    Take tyre to a tyre shop and let them have a look at it.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yes I accept that the tyre won't be repaired now of course that I've found that nick.

    if you go to most tyre franchise places they will say new tyre straight off really so wanted to be informed in advance

    it's possible that the tyre was unseated off the tread without damage

    it's actually technically possible to fix damage like that by hot vulcanising but not worth the hassle of finding the place that would do it / be able to send it where it can be done and taking the risk down the line.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    knocked wheel off kerb pulling in (at very moderate speed)

    was flat soon after

    put on spare wheel

    is wheel that is flat likely to be a simple repair?

    hopefully not looking at a new tyre.

    might pump it up to see if it holds pressure overnight?
    glasso wrote: »
    yes I accept that the tyre won't be repaired now of course that I've found that nick.

    if you go to most tyre franchise places they will say new tyre straight off really so wanted to be informed in advance

    it's possible that the tyre was unseated off the tread without damage

    it's actually technically possible to fix damage like that by hot vulcanising but not worth the hassle of finding the place that would do it / be able to send it where it can be done and taking the risk down the line.

    You seem to have learned a great deal in a day :)


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm a quick learner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    glasso wrote: »
    Have now found a nick - just over a centimetre long - just under the R in 45R

    air will come out through that when inflated.

    was difficult to see unless very bright light shone on it

    is that game over for this tyre...?

    CvNow1E.png

    That's a fierce obvious cut. And the tyres goosed.


    Pain in the hole for something so new though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This happened to me very recently too. New tyre, tracking and done!


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    listermint wrote: »
    That's a fierce obvious cut. And the tyres goosed.


    Pain in the hole for something so new though

    that picture was taken with a powerful led flashlight being shone on it.

    cut is not visible at all under normal indoor lighting.

    annoying alright.

    very few miles on it and did not impact kerb beyond pulling in speed it was not a high kerb.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    ..........
    cut is not visible at all under normal indoor lighting.

    should-have-gone-to-specsavers.jpg


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    some posters are not actually out to provide advice in any way but to contrive some situation to win "the internet argument"

    no use to anyone, including themselves


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    glasso wrote: »
    ....will try to avoid the franchise outlets if possible as there is only one way that will go with them even before you walk in the door
    Strangely enough I visited one well known franchise recently to have 4 tyres replaced. They would only replace 3 of them. They said one didn't need replacing. I said I'd rather have it replaced anyway (it was about 50% worn) and have all the tyres the same. They point blank refused saying it would be unethical to change a 'perfectly good tyre'. I thought it was unusual.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    some posters are not actually out to provide advice in any way but to contrive some situation to win "the internet argument"

    no use to anyone, including themselves

    Your question was answered in the first reply to the topic
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116745827&postcount=2


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strangely enough I visited one well known franchise recently to have 4 tyres replaced. They would only replace 3 of them. They said one didn't need replacing. I said I'd rather have it replaced anyway (it was about 50% worn) and have all the tyres the same. They point blank refused saying it would be unethical to change a 'perfectly good tyre'. I thought it was unusual.

    that is unusual!

    crazy price differential just from ringing a few places in the same area.

    up to 50% difference for the exact same tyre model fitted and balanced. (no alignment).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    4 fresh tyres have more grip than older tyres and having them all the same make is safer than mix and match ones , depends if it was the same size of spare to keep for emergency.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    all 4 tyres were same brand, model and size.

    only had couple of thousand miles done.

    today got same brand and model tyre replaced on it.

    no significant damage to wheel itself.

    tyre got pinched and damaged effectively.

    spare is a space saver type wheel.


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