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Pointless plastic

  • 25-03-2021 10:03am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17


    Anybody else think its ridiculous that shops are wrapping individual pastries and bread in plastic. Not only is it a waste and build up of plastic but the bread is crap to eat after. Its supposed to stop coming but does it actually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    MrSeanWick wrote: »
    Anybody else think its ridiculous that shops are wrapping individual pastries and bread in plastic. Not only is it a waste and build up of plastic but the bread is crap to eat after. Its supposed to stop coming but does it actually.

    Get rid of the large plastic carrier bags instead

    They need to wrap stuff because people paw bread and pastries



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭jkforde


    i love the idea behind the nudge behaviour approach.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory

    make it awkward to use single use single plastic and then people will naturally drift away from it

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrSeanWick wrote: »
    Anybody else think its ridiculous that shops are wrapping individual pastries and bread in plastic. Not only is it a waste and build up of plastic but the bread is crap to eat after. Its supposed to stop coming but does it actually.

    Agree, but with covid I cant see it going away any time soon. There are other materials that can be used to wrap them though


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, our local shop only started wrapping them as a covid measure. which means the bread goes rubbery in the plastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 MrSeanWick


    Agree, but with covid I cant see it going away any time soon. There are other materials that can be used to wrap them though

    I know, its just very annoying to see and one shop I went into had individual donuts in a big plastic box that are used for cakes. It looked ridiculous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 MrSeanWick


    yeah, our local shop only started wrapping them as a covid measure. which means the bread goes rubbery in the plastic.

    Agreed. The bread and pastries are not proofing properly. Turns me off buying them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭1874


    I saw cellulose based plastic on foodstuff at a market and since see there is dis-solvable coverings on items such as dishwasher tablets, this could fit the bill for the likes of bread? ie a covering that prevents people touching and potentially contaminating with direct contact? perforated (as plastics are for bread anyway would make it breathable, any reasons why this isnt a utilised material. I'll guess its shelf life isnt as long but Im sure that could be managed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,894 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i remember reading, probably 20 years ago, that cellulose manufacture is not clean at all. not sure if that may have changed in the intervening period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Apoapsis Rex


    First thing that came to mind was the animal cruelty protesters in Madrid using a lot of plastic to re create a scenario of packaged human meat. Such a waste of plastic and a tad hypocritical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Half the virgin plastic ever produced has been manufactured since 2005.

    Recycling? What’s the fu**in’ point...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    A Ferrero Rocha comes in a foil wrapper and a piece of paper/card inside a plastic box inside a plastic wrapper. For a bit of crappy lightweight chocolate.

    My blood test stripes come in a sealed box yet the 10 x 5 strips are encased inside an utterly needless plastic wraparound.

    It's crazy how much additional crap is added to a product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    What annoys me is that "cannot be recycled plastic" or bring to your nearest store


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭jkforde


    Circular Economy Consultation
    http://www.epa.ie/pubs/consultation/irelandscirculareconomyprogramme.html

    Let them know your thoughts.

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    A lot of Lidl stuff is packed in material that is "not yet recyclable".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    A Ferrero Rocha comes in ....

    My blood test stripes come in ...


    I'm just wondering :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    A lot of Lidl stuff is packed in material that is "not yet recyclable".

    FYP


    and a heap of it I cant for the life of me see why ( other then "marketing" )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Extra user.


    The situation with all kinds of plastic is ludicrous

    Shop fridges filled with plastic bottles of fizzy drink no-one even needs to drink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    0lddog wrote: »
    I'm just wondering :p

    Nope! My sister had a box at Christmas (very cliched I thought) but I only had one and remembered I don't like them. Terrible product in every respect!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    MrSeanWick wrote: »
    Anybody else think its ridiculous that shops are wrapping individual pastries and bread in plastic.

    It’s a covid thing. But on the note of plastics....I read an article in the Guardian the last day about airborne plastics.....
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/airborne-plastic-pollution-spiralling-around-the-globe-study-finds/ar-BB1fzUbP
    I thought we could avoid the sea plastics by not eating fish but this takes the ‘bait..cuit’....now it’s airborne! ....How do you deal with that......?.?!scary stuff!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Extra user.


    It’s a covid thing. But on the note of plastics....I read an article in the Guardian the last day about airborne plastics.....
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/airborne-plastic-pollution-spiralling-around-the-globe-study-finds/ar-BB1fzUbP
    I thought we could avoid the sea plastics by not eating fish but this takes the bait......now it’s airborne! ....How do you deal with that......?.?!scary stuff!

    Fish full of plastic shrink wrapped in plastic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    Nope! My sister had a box at Christmas (very cliched I thought) but I only had one ...


    Good for you ! ( sometimes that aint easy )


    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Extra user.


    I've always envisaged dispensers where you go with your can and dispense a litre of bleach or a litre of milk and pay for it

    I know it doesn't fit the conventional model of retail sales

    What's going on at the moment and add Amazon to the mix now pushing all kinds of unnecessary plastic products is just not sustainable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    They would be brilliant but you'd end up with the health and safety police on you. Spillages! :eek: On the other hand if someone set up a dedicated dispenser unit in a location and you could say buy the dedicated receptacle on first visit and then reuse it thereafter at that outlet then it could work if it were possible to bulk buy a large enough range of products - juices, milks, cleaning fluids, alcohol, and so on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    A lot of Lidl stuff is packed in material that is "not yet recyclable".

    A lot??? you mean most of Lidl stuff!

    Aldi and Lidl have to be the worst offenders in this area because so much of their stuff is "own brand" so they have full control over how it is packed.

    The only reason there can be is that its cheaper for them so they make more profit.

    Total bullsh!t when they say how much stuff the stores recycle when they are dumping so much unrecyclable plastic on customers.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    I've always envisaged dispensers where you go with your can and dispense a litre of bleach or a litre of milk and pay for it....

    Biscuits used to be sold out of a big container - ask for however many you wanted 'n shop assistant would put them into a paper bag for you. :)

    Same with sweets too - big container of, say, Quality Street ( was V up market ) ask for so many oz and they would be put in a paper bag for you.

    Is it still allowed to slice ham in a shop ? ( or does it have to be prepacked ? )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Extra user.


    0lddog wrote: »
    Biscuits used to be sold out of a big container - ask for however many you wanted 'n shop assistant would put them into a paper bag for you. :)

    Same with sweets too - big container of, say, Quality Street ( was V up market ) ask for so many oz and they would be put in a paper bag for you.

    Is it still allowed to slice ham in a shop ? ( or does it have to be prepacked ? )
    Thats right

    We're gone backwards in a lot of ways and of course business won't change unles it's in their interest or forced to do so


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The situation with all kinds of plastic is ludicrous

    Shop fridges filled with plastic bottles of fizzy drink no-one even needs to drink
    You can argue that fizzy drinks have flavour and so aren't a direct replacement for tap water.

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bottled-water-market-size-worth-505-19-billion-by-2028--cagr-11-1-grand-view-research-inc-301219764.html
    The global bottled water market size is expected to reach USD 505.19 billion by 2028, according to a new report by Grand View Research, Inc. It is expected to expand at a CAGR of 11.1% from 2021 to 2028. The growing awareness regarding the adverse health effects of consuming sugary drinks, such as weight gain, obesity, diabetes, and heart disease, is supporting the consumption of alternative beverages, such as still and sparkling water.


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