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Whatever happened to driverless cars being everywhere by 2020?

  • 23-03-2021 8:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭


    Google’s Sergey Brin gave this prediction in 2012, when he suggested: “You can count on one hand the number of years it will take before ordinary people can experience
    this.

    General Motors president Dan Amann in 2014 said he would be surprised if his company wasn’t shipping self-driving cars by 2020.

    In 2016 Telsa said it would be "Two years until self-driving cars are on the road"

    A big can of baloney and hullabaloo


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,397 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Hindsight is 2020

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Is the Tesla not self driving if you live stateside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Google’s Sergey Brin gave this prediction in 2012, when he suggested: “You can count on one hand the number of years it will take before ordinary people can experience
    this.

    General Motors president Dan Amann in 2014 said he would be surprised if his company wasn’t shipping self-driving cars by 2020.

    In 2016 Telsa said it would be "Two years until self-driving cars are on the road"

    A big can of baloney and hullabaloo

    I'd say they were trying to drum up investment or the likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,829 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    The crash happened so they got delayed till 2030.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Christine was made in 1983 so they've actually had them since then. Seeing how that car turned out I'm not surprised they pushed it back a bit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Fieldog wrote: »
    Is the Tesla not self driving if you live stateside?


    Some places. I'd say that the legal and insurance issues could be holding up their roll out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,397 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Archeron wrote: »
    Christine was made in 1983 so they've actually had them since then. Seeing how that car turned out I'm not surprised they pushed it back a bit.

    The VW Herbie also freaked me out a little back in the 70s.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The VW Herbie also freaked me out a little back in the 70s.
    It wasn't just you.


    Dougal: Can I stay up tonight to watch the scary film?

    Ted: Ah, no no no. The last time you stayed up to watch a scary film you ended up having to sleep in my bed. I wouldn't mind, but it wasn't even a scary film.

    Dougal: Come on, Ted. A Volkswagen with a mind of its own. If that isn't scary, I don't know what is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Google’s Sergey Brin gave this prediction in 2012, when he suggested: “You can count on one hand the number of years it will take before ordinary people can experience
    this.
    A big can of baloney and hullabaloo

    The first 80% was easy, the last 20% is hard.
    Lots of variables and the high profile crashes from Uber and the like didn't help. The media hype also died away, but I'm sure plenty of work is ongoing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    The first 80% was easy, the last 20% is hard.
    Lots of variables and the high profile crashes from Uber and the like didn't help. The media hype also died away, but I'm sure plenty of work is ongoing.


    I read that the Uber cars had their software modified.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    The first 80% was easy, the last 20% is hard.
    Lots of variables and the high profile crashes from Uber and the like didn't help. The media hype also died away, but I'm sure plenty of work is ongoing.
    They aren't at 80% yet.


    By putting some tape on a 35 mph sign to they tricked a Tesla into going 85 mph.

    Neither loop is closed so it doesn't look like an 8. And Highway Signs use specific fonts.

    AI car should have maps of speed limits too.

    Humans know that 85mph isn't a valid speed option.

    And the car completely ignored the context, humans would have known that it wasn't an area where high seed would be expected.

    And the lack of road markings normally expected on highways.


    AI is still mostly pattern recognition from picture sets. No intelligence.

    Until the software team or better still the marketing team are legally responsible, driverless cars have no business on the public roads at high speeds.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AMKC wrote: »
    The crash happened so they got delayed till 2030.

    What crash?

    Self driving cars are all hat and no cattle. Most AI is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Ai for driving cars is very complex, other drivers make mistakes ,pedestrians cross roads at random places, cars have to deal with people on bikes .
    Ai just follows rules, looks for signs, traffic lights,
    maybe have a speed limit on the cars like 50 mph.
    the problem is the software has to work and be safe to other drivers all the time.i think it,ll be 5 years before self driving cars are common.
    it,ll be easier to have self driving vans in rural area,s with low levels of traffic maybe outside peak hours eg after 10 am before 4pm.
    tech experts always overly optimistic about how long it takes to make robots or software to do things in the physical world.
    meanwhile software is replacing many office jobs.


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