Ballpark figure for block wall

maxamillius

Looking for ball park figure to build block wall in garden, it’s approx 9.5 mtrs long and 2 metres high. There is a fence there at the moment so foundations would need to be dug. Doesn’t require render or capping.

Thanks

Calahonda52

access for a digger? consent of neighbour?
why no capping, better for wall

maxamillius

Calahonda52 wrote: »

access for a digger? consent of neighbour?
why no capping, better for wall

Could get a mini digger in alright, neighbour won’t care as I’ll be paying for it!!

radar0976

maxamillius wrote: »

Looking for ball park figure to build block wall in garden, it’s approx 9.5 mtrs long and 2 metres high. There is a fence there at the moment so foundations would need to be dug. Doesn’t require render or capping.

Thanks

Based on my experience of getting a longer wall built in recent months you're probably (very roughly) looking at approximately

Foundations - ~€500-€700
Labour - Block laying - Depends on cost per block. This could be anywhere from €1.30 a block to €2 per block. Be sure to shop around.
Blocks - Not very expensive if you buy in bulk. You'd have to work out how many you need but I was getting 880 blocks for €520.
Concrete and Sand - Not expensive. Probably around €100 for the amount of sand you'd need and less than €100 for the amount of cement.

Rough figures based on my experience but should give you a rough idea.

maxamillius

radar0976 wrote: »

Based on my experience of getting a longer wall built in recent months you're probably (very roughly) looking at approximately

Foundations - ~€500-€700
Labour - Block laying - Depends on cost per block. This could be anywhere from €1.30 a block to €2 per block. Be sure to shop around.
Blocks - Not very expensive if you buy in bulk. You'd have to work out how many you need but I was getting 880 blocks for €520.
Concrete and Sand - Not expensive. Probably around €100 for the amount of sand you'd need and less than €100 for the amount of cement.

Rough figures based on my experience but should give you a rough idea.

That’s great thanks for that, I had a figure of around 2k in my head so probably not a million miles away!!

maxamillius

First quote in, 3.5k, ridiculous for a non rendered block wall!!

Danye

maxamillius wrote: »

First quote in, 3.5k, ridiculous for a non rendered block wall!!

Where are you based? Is that the price for everything? Dig, pour, build etc? It’s hardly 3.5k for just blockwork?

maxamillius

Danye wrote: »

Where are you based? Is that the price for everything? Dig, pour, build etc? It’s hardly 3.5k for just blockwork?

Dublin, that’s for digging foundation and building block wall, no render. Seems like absolute madness for a 20sq metre wall

Danye

maxamillius wrote: »

Dublin, that’s for digging foundation and building block wall, no render. Seems like absolute madness for a 20sq metre wall

Yeah it seems a bit steep ok. Did they break it down for you as to the costings?

maxamillius

Danye wrote: »

Yeah it seems a bit steep ok. Did they break it down for you as to the costings?

5 days work,
Digger for foundation
Concrete for base
Solid block
Labour and bricky
Skip

I’d have thought foundations dug in a day, it’s literally 10mtrs long and there is access for a mini digger.

Pour foundation second day. Lay blocks day 3. Worked it out at approx 215 blocks.

Wildly Boaring

radar0976 wrote: »

Based on my experience of getting a longer wall built in recent months you're probably (very roughly) looking at approximately

Foundations - ~€500-€700
Labour - Block laying - Depends on cost per block. This could be anywhere from €1.30 a block to €2 per block. Be sure to shop around.
Blocks - Not very expensive if you buy in bulk. You'd have to work out how many you need but I was getting 880 blocks for €520.
Concrete and Sand - Not expensive. Probably around €100 for the amount of sand you'd need and less than €100 for the amount of cement.

Rough figures based on my experience but should give you a rough idea.

Founds for 500 to 700 seems cheap.

2 men for a day 500
Digger inc transport for a day 300
10m wall say 2 cube concrete say 400 inc small load charge
Skip 300
1500

500 blocks laid say 1500

You're at 3k before the man makes a few quid, hires anything he doesn't own (whacker, poker, mixer, mini dumper). Encounters any issues - soft ground?? Encounters a wet day when he has to pay his labour regardless of output. Puts up some sort of trestle or scaffold Puts diesel in the van......

The fun of pricing work.


BTW you mention the neighbours are ok if you're paying. You got in writing?
People gev very snippy about walks and boundaries

Wildly Boaring

maxamillius wrote: »

approx 215 blocks.

10m x 2m is 20m2

Divide by . 450
Divide by .225 for block on edge
200 blocks

Include for piers another 100.
You might be nearr than me....

Somewhere between my 500 and your 215.

Casati

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

10m x 2m is 20m2

Divide by . 450
Divide by .225 for block on edge
200 blocks

Include for piers another 100.
You might be nearr than me....

Somewhere between my 500 and your 215.

Is block on edge okay for a 2m high wall?

Who2

Digger hire for day with man approx 300, another man setting out and clearing out what’s there. 240. A skip 300 . Concrete for footing will have a minimum delivery charge so it’s going to be 300 anyway. They might get on well the first day and get the footings in but will probably allow a day for two lads to do the footings so another 500. A 2m high wall will have to be done in 2 stages so another two days for two men or 1000. Blocks,sand and cement will be the guts of 600
The wall will need some sort of pillars or need tiring into something which will all take time.
Materials will all need to be hand balled in. These sort of jobs can be more of a pain than they are worth and 3.5k mightn’t be that far out if all’s considered. They should be able to get in and out quicker than I’ve it broken down to which will mean they have a handy week but realistically most lads won’t want the hassle. Trades are very hard got at the moment .

Lantus

Make sure wall position is fully agreed with neighbours. Who will get the piers, assuming you. And agree to finish and clean on their side afterwards.

3.5k doesn't sound bad for work and materials involved. Capping very important. You can render later if you want.

maxamillius

Who2 wrote: »

Digger hire for day with man approx 300, another man setting out and clearing out what’s there. 240. A skip 300 . Concrete for footing will have a minimum delivery charge so it’s going to be 300 anyway. They might get on well the first day and get the footings in but will probably allow a day for two lads to do the footings so another 500. A 2m high wall will have to be done in 2 stages so another two days for two men or 1000. Blocks,sand and cement will be the guts of 600
The wall will need some sort of pillars or need tiring into something which will all take time.
Materials will all need to be hand balled in. These sort of jobs can be more of a pain than they are worth and 3.5k mightn’t be that far out if all’s considered. They should be able to get in and out quicker than I’ve it broken down to which will mean they have a handy week but realistically most lads won’t want the hassle. Trades are very hard got at the moment .

Thanks, I’m an electrician so am around the trade world quite a bit, just bugs me when people turn there noses up at the small jobs or price them outrageously high because they couldn’t be arsed doing them. At the end of the day a job is a job and given the way things have been in this country they would do well to remember when things go bang they will be glad of any job big or small.

In my head I’d have expected up to 2.5k for a job of that size.

Wildly Boaring

Casati wrote: »

Is block on edge okay for a 2m high wall?

I'd prefer on the flat, hence my 500 blocks........
But on edge be ok with piers.
Better be. It's what's behind my house!!!

maxamillius

All the other boundary walls are on edge, granted they were built about 20years ago. The new wall would tie into the rear wall and would also tie in between the houses. Semi detached.

Who2

maxamillius wrote: »

Thanks, I’m an electrician so am around the trade world quite a bit, just bugs me when people turn there noses up at the small jobs or price them outrageously high because they couldn’t be arsed doing them. At the end of the day a job is a job and given the way things have been in this country they would do well to remember when things go bang they will be glad of any job big or small.

In my head I’d have expected up to 2.5k for a job of that size.

I can’t keep up with work at the moment and most lads are the same. No young lads willing or even want to go near sites and maybe they’re right. A lot of lads got badly burned and have no intentions of letting it happen again. When construction opens I can’t see any trade having an idle day . It’s easy saying do well to remember but only an idiot is going to take on a job at bare day rate when there’s plenty of easier more lucrative jobs out there. I’m getting phone calls every week from people looking for lads to do work and they just can’t be got.

maxamillius

Anyway, there’s enough negativity in the air, we won’t get into a rant over the ridiculous price of building. I’ll report back when I have a few more quotes!!!

Danye

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

10m x 2m is 20m2

Divide by . 450
Divide by .225 for block on edge
200 blocks

Include for piers another 100.
You might be nearr than me....

Somewhere between my 500 and your 215.

Off topic - but - its 10 blocks per square metre. Much simpler way of calculating for future reference:)

Wildly Boaring

Danye wrote: »

Off topic - but - its 10 blocks per square metre. Much simpler way of calculating for future reference:)

Grand
I deal with about 400 different materials at work.
Easier do the sums.
Civils mainly. Blocks are not usually an issue

enricoh

Would you hire a digger Friday evening n dig it out yourself, get a mate over Saturday morning finish it off and barrow in the concrete for 11 or 12 o clock. Easter hollyers on , get some kid to barrow the blocks out the back n have them sitting there. 2 lads would fly through lashing up the blocks.