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Break it to me gently.......

  • 21-03-2021 5:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭


    Collected my brand new bike yesterday, like a kid on Xmas morning today all set to feel the benefit of a new bike and a serious upgrade for me with carbon wheels and Di2.

    I got 50 metres from my front door when a kid on a scooter came zooming around the corner on the wrong side and basically took me out. Initially I thought there was no damage, then realized the steerer tube was misaligned with the wheel so strolled back to the house to sort that out. Took off again only to realise that the shifter paddle was missing ie. couldn't change grears - revisited the scene of the crash and sure enough, there it was in the road, having snapped off !

    ........so my question is, does this mean that I have to get the entire shifter unit replaced (and I know they ain't cheap) ?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,882 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    unfortunately, i've never heard of a shifter being repairable like that. how far up did it snap?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Unlucky. I feel your pain. At least everyone's ok.

    Maybe there's a specialist you can send it off to..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    The good news is that the DI2 shifters are generally cheaper than the mechanical ones. The better news is that you might be able to just replace the lever. If you go to Shimano Tech Docs and search through Series, Road, model and find the appropriate EV-ST-xxxx document you can get the part number (typically Yxxxxxxx) and if you google that you will hopelully find someone selling it. Of course, you need to be able to fit it then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭cyclocross!


    I know its painful but it's also not really a bike until it gets its first scratch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    OP.. Thankfully no one injured but very frustrating all the same. Like other posters have said.. see if the shifter assembly can be replaced independently.

    I had an off on my MTB some weeks back, only a few spins in after getting it just before Christmas, and broke my left brake lever clean off. I had visions of having to get new one and bleed brakes etc to change it but then found that the actual lever part could be changed independently of the rest of the body - I had to buy the whole brake lever unit (bike-discount.de was good for individual parts but took a long time to deliver..) and when it arrived I was able to remove the required part and swap it on; saved me having to deal with bleeding the hydraulics etc and having a more complex job.

    Hopefully same might be possible for yourself and job may be easier to do. Can be a long time getting bike shop repairs done at moment so if you can do it all yourself then may save you a lot of time.

    Best of Luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Is the child ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭shamrocka330


    Is the child ok?

    Died unfortunately.

    But, the bigger issue is the damage to a brand new bike.

    Absolutely heartbreaking. Poor bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Aw man. Brand new bike, that's the worst luck. Hope you get it sorted and the bike isn't scratched up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭jrar


    Is the child ok?

    Yes, the kid is fine - as am I.....the only damage is to the bike, scuff marks on pedal and the end of the brake lever, but the bigger issue is the shifter paddle which has snapped off at the top of its fixture to the mechanism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    jrar wrote: »
    Yes, the kid is fine - as am I.....the only damage is to the bike.

    Is it up to the kids parents to pay for the repair?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    If it's DI2 you can reprogram it so you only use the unbroken shifter. A bit messy but it'd get you by until you get it sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Effects wrote: »
    Is it up to the kids parents to pay for the repair?

    Best of Luck on that one... that's fairly ruthless. I would just be very happy child was not injured as that's something I wouldn't be able to live with too easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Effects wrote: »
    Is it up to the kids parents to pay for the repair?

    Sure it is:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Maybe get some new gear out of it too and a few paid days off work.

    Soon be on the pig's back lad!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭jrar


    Effects wrote: »
    Is it up to the kids parents to pay for the repair?

    Eh, won't be going down that road, the kid was just being a kid, and yeah, had I been in my car, it could have been a very different outcome but hopefully they've learnt a lesson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    forget about shifter - what about the eejit on the scooter did you get his details? surely his insurance will cover it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Best of Luck on that one... that's fairly ruthless.
    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Sure it is:D

    I guess as a parent myself, I'd feel the responsibility was mine to put right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    jrar wrote: »
    Eh, won't be going down that road, the kid was just being a kid, and yeah, had I been in my car, it could have been a very different outcome but hopefully they've learnt a lesson.

    Wow, you’re tolerant. If it were me I’d be knocking on their door with their child next to me and would explain the situation to them. Any decent parent would be very apologetic and would be offering to pay for the damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Effects wrote: »
    I guess as a parent myself, I'd feel the responsibility was mine to put right.

    Yes, and me as a parent would be the same but I guess that's the way me and you are.. but if I was the bike rider I would not be chasing the parents on it and would just be glad the child was OK. If the parents were prepared to offer then I might consider taking the offer but all said I would just be very happy no one injured.

    We had an incident about 2 years back where a mother reversed over my sons bike and totaled his rear wheel; luckily frame was OK.. my son was distraught but what made it worse was that she absolutely lashed him for daring to leave his bike on the ground close to her car. She never once offered to pay for the bike or even come near us to apologize for what she said to him. Cost me €60 to get new wheel for this bike and I just went over and handed her the receipt.. she continued to have a go at me then and basically said my son was not to come over to their house again with his bike; I really had to bite my tongue as I didn't want to risk destroying the friendship between my son and her son.. but she was an absolute b1tch. Moral of the story is you get good honest people and then absolute f**kers like this..


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Was the kid wearing hi-viz? Were you? Whichever of you wasn't, was at fault. Fact. End of.

    P.s you must win the prize for quickest crash on new bike, I thought I was bad with 6 weeks. I feel much better about mine now, that's been hanging over me for 6 months. Thanks. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭jrar


    Was the kid wearing hi-viz? Were you? Whichever of you wasn't, was at fault. Fact. End of.

    P.s you must win the prize for quickest crash on new bike, I thought I was bad with 6 weeks. I feel much better about mine now, that's been hanging over me for 6 months. Thanks. :)

    No hi-viz involved, it was 11:30'ish on a lovely bright sunny morning - kid was on a push scooter but it was the angle they hit me at that caused the fall i.e. I couldn't take evasive action. Yeah, I was effing and jeffing at the time but its not like they set out to hit me, or cause criminal damage etc. I know the kid in question (and their parents) and I'm not about to issue them a demand for monies when essentially it would comes down to my word versus theirs if the parents decided to challenge my demands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Effects wrote: »
    I guess as a parent myself, I'd feel the responsibility was mine to put right.

    Tactical change of direction there ;)


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