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Where have all the 3 door cars gone, and why so many SUV?

  • 18-03-2021 1:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭


    So I in the look out for a new car (211) As I am in a wheelchair I want a 3 door as the door is longer which makes it more easy to get in and to transfer the chair across from me. What I have found out is except for the Mini and maybe Alpha no one is making 3 door cars and most car variety are now SUV types.

    I always thought 3 doors were good for people who maybe needed a bit more room. So why the shift in cars.

    Yes I know the high end cars have 3 doors but out of my price range


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Sporty variants of hatchbacks started being offered in the last 15-20 years in 5 door rather than 3 (think Golf GTI, Focus ST etc) and it just became acceptable.
    There then was no real demand for standard 3 door family sized hatchbacks (often bought in 3 door because they were considered more sporty, sometimes because they were just cheaper) and manufacturers of superminis and family hatches stopped offering them altogether because people just weren’t buying them. Why bother engineering a 3 door model at all?

    There are still a few exceptions as you said.

    We have over the years lost 3 door estates, 2 door saloon versions of family cars, non-premium 2 door coupes, saloon versions of superminis, estate versions of superminis (Fabia hanging in there for now) and 2 door crossovers.

    This is just evolution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Sporty variants of hatchbacks started being offered in the last 15-20 years in 5 door rather than 3 (think Golf GTI, Focus ST etc) and it just became acceptable.
    There then was no real demand for standard 3 door family sized hatchbacks (often bought in 3 door because they were considered more sporty, sometimes because they were just cheaper) and manufacturers of superminis and family hatches stopped offering them altogether because people just weren’t buying them. Why bother engineering a 3 door model at all?

    There are still a few exceptions as you said.

    We have over the years lost 3 door estates, 2 door saloon versions of family cars, non-premium 2 door coupes, saloon versions of superminis, estate versions of superminis (Fabia hanging in there for now) and 2 door crossovers.

    This is just evolution.

    Ya during the good old years before the bad old years you could practically get any car in any way you wanted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    You answered your question in the title. People are buying SUVs and aren't buying cars, no matter how many doors they have, so manufactures are meeting demand (the higher profits on SUVs are a bonus.)


  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the metal presses for body panels alone can run to tens of millions of euro.
    If you are selling 80% 5/4 door cars then you never recoup the cost on the presses on the 3/2 door cars unless you are dealing with cars where you can charge a premium for the 3/2 door car e.g. A5 or E class coupe.
    It also helps if it is a model where you are selling a convertible because then the presses for the coupe panels may be used on convertibles too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    I thought I saw a 3 door astra earlier today, maybe I was mistaken.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭fabsoul


    What car do you have now?

    So I in the look out for a new car (211) As I am in a wheelchair I want a 3 door as the door is longer which makes it more easy to get in and to transfer the chair across from me. What I have found out is except for the Mini and maybe Alpha no one is making 3 door cars and most car variety are now SUV types.

    I always thought 3 doors were good for people who maybe needed a bit more room. So why the shift in cars.

    Yes I know the high end cars have 3 doors but out of my price range


  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It may not be new but have you not considered a Ford B-max. I always though they were the perfect car due to the absence of a B-pillar. They were available with automatic transmission and I think there are a few up north.

    new fiesta is available as a 3 door and is one of the last superminis still to offer 3 doors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I thought I saw a 3 door astra earlier today, maybe I was mistaken.

    The thing is with the smaller cars they have the handle at the back of the door and blended into the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    fabsoul wrote: »
    What car do you have now?

    182 Corsa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    It may not be new but have you not considered a Ford B-max. I always though they were the perfect car due to the absence of a B-pillar. They were available with automatic transmission and I think there are a few up north.

    new fiesta is available as a 3 door and is one of the last superminis still to offer 3 doors.

    The reason I say new is if you buy new the government have a VRT scheme for adaptive Cars


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    So I in the look out for a new car (211) As I am in a wheelchair I want a 3 door as the door is longer which makes it more easy to get in and to transfer the chair across from me. What I have found out is except for the Mini and maybe Alpha no one is making 3 door cars and most car variety are now SUV types.

    I always thought 3 doors were good for people who maybe needed a bit more room. So why the shift in cars.

    Yes I know the high end cars have 3 doors but out of my price range

    Same with colours.
    Most cars a dull black, grey,white.
    Wheres all the blues,reds,greens gone to.


  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The reason I say new is if you buy new the government have a VRT scheme for adaptive Cars
    Fiesta it is then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Fiesta it is then!
    Hopefully its in an automatic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    Might be out of your budget, would the electric bmw i3 suit? Its 4 doors, but no pillar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    kanuseeme wrote: »
    Might be out of your budget, would the electric bmw i3 suit? Its 4 doors, but no pillar


    Notes in passing ... very low VRT on 'leccy cars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Secondary note, costs over twice as much as a Corsa :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    The reason I say new is if you buy new the government have a VRT scheme for adaptive Cars


    You’ll get residual VRT up to 10k back of used as well. That makes a 2 year old premium marque a much better value option than a new mid range imo.


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