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Running Cables to Other side of Fireplace

  • 15-03-2021 12:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭


    I need to move our TV to the other side of the fireplace, so need to run some cables over.
    Power is not a problem as there are sockets in the new location but I need to run the TV and Internet cables across to the far side of the fireplace.
    Obviously can't go through the chimney breast and don't want to go up into the ceiling, so is my only option some sort of mini-trunking along the floor and around the front of the hearth?

    Something like this?

    Quadrant Trunking.jpg


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    We had a fender made for around the fireplace at the time for exactly this purpose, to conceal cables inside,

    You might also take off skirting and chip out some plaster to allow cables to rest behind skirting on areas either side of the fireplace,
    Chip out plaster, then cable clip in cables, fill with expanding foam, cut smooth then refit skirting boards.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    What was the foam for in that scenario


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭B-D-P--


    listermint wrote: »
    What was the foam for in that scenario

    Air tightness I guess, Stop drafts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    B-D-P-- wrote: »
    Air tightness I guess, Stop drafts

    Looks like plaster on block. Not sure where the air is meant to come from .. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    listermint wrote: »
    What was the foam for in that scenario

    Wife had a fear of spiders making a home in the gap behind the skirting, not really required other than to consume the space.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Is it ok to encase cables in expanding foam or is there a particular type of foam for the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    kabakuyu wrote: »
    Is it ok to encase cables in expanding foam or is there a particular type of foam for the job.
    I used unibond white-tec foam but shouldn't really matter,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    LenWoods wrote: »
    I used unibond white-tec foam but shouldn't really matter,
    Not quite
    It may matter in the same way as you can't lay PVP PV cables on polystyrene.
    Also power cables need to be air cooled

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭JMR


    ...... So mini trunking, yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JMR wrote: »
    ...... So mini trunking, yeah?

    It's down to what you find visually acceptable. Trunking would never be for me they would have to go ceiling or Attic depending on room. But trunking might be on for others.

    Does it work? Yes.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What flooring do you have? Husband routed out the piece of laminate beside the hearth and wall and we ran the cable under that. There’s a hole the width of the cable for it to come out behind the tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    Not quite
    It may matter in the same way as you can't lay PVP PV cables on polystyrene.
    Also power cables need to be air cooled

    I've not got power cables in there;
    I'd like to add that it's also not recommended to run power along side communication cables due to possible interference,
    And it's illegal to run power cables horizontally in walls, have to come up or go down in straight lines.
    The cables which I have surrounded by foam are;
    RG6 coaxial and Cat7 in there four years now.

    If sky or virgin put a cable through a wall of your home, does that mean the cavity can't be pumped with insulation or the surrounding area of the entry hole sealed with expanding foam?
    If no then..
    How much foam is too much ?
    lol you know what I mean.

    Also if applying foam make sure there is absolutely no fire in the fireplace until the foam has fully cured otherwise that could be a real issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭JMR


    What flooring do you have? Husband routed out the piece of laminate beside the hearth and wall and we ran the cable under that. There’s a hole the width of the cable for it to come out behind the tv.

    Laminate flooring.
    Thanks but probably beyond my capabilities.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JMR wrote: »
    Laminate flooring.
    Thanks but probably beyond my capabilities.

    I’d have a look under the hearth and see where the laminate finishes and if there’s space to push the cable in. There could also be a gap between the laminate and wall under the skirting that’s big enough too.

    If you do have to go with trunking, I’d suggest painting in a colour as close as you can to your laminate so it doesn’t stand out as much. Also, if the recesses on both sides of the fire are the same, I’d run the trunking on both sides symmetrical too. But this is my ocd kicking in ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    JMR wrote: »
    I need to move our TV to the other side of the fireplace, so need to run some cables over.
    Power is not a problem as there are sockets in the new location but I need to run the TV and Internet cables across to the far side of the fireplace.
    Obviously can't go through the chimney breast and don't want to go up into the ceiling, so is my only option some sort of mini-trunking along the floor and around the front of the hearth?

    Something like this?

    Quadrant Trunking.jpg

    Is that an outside wall. Can you drill out and back in the other side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭JMR


    meercat wrote: »
    Is that an outside wall. Can you drill out and back in the other side

    Good idea but unfortunately no, not an exterior wall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    JMR wrote: »
    ...... So mini trunking, yeah?

    Yes , works a treat. Once it’s there and painted you don’t notice it.
    There’s a virgin co axial and 2 speaker cables and 1 sub woofer speaker going through the trunking
    Trunking goes up 1 side, across the top and back down the other side.
    Could have done a tidier job on the corners but it works well and you don’t notice

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Cerco


    LenWoods wrote: »
    And it's illegal to run power cables horizontally in walls, have to come up or go down in straight lines. .

    are you sure about this?


  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cerco wrote: »
    are you sure about this?

    See page 13 of this months safe electric news letter

    https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/03/MarchNewsletterSafeElecFinal-1.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Cerco


    Thanks for the link Brownfinger. That answers the question.


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