Home plugs..

keano25

Can anyone help me understand this?

My son set his PS4 up with tplink av200 plugs, his speed showed constant at 18mbps.

We then ran an ethernet cable directly to the PS4 and got constant speeds of 120mbps..

Is it the home plugs?

degsie

keano25 wrote: »

Can anyone help me understand this?

My son set his PS4 up with tplink av200 plugs, his speed showed constant at 18mbps.

We then ran an ethernet cable directly to the PS4 and got constant speeds of 120mbps..

Is it the home plugs?

Unfortunately yes. Manufactures never publish 'real world' data on these only 'ideal' speeds in a lab setup. Imperfect home wiring is usually the culprit. Have a think about mesh wifi with satellites that provide a wired connection. Might be a better option.

greasepalm

I would ask if any extensions are in use which can restrict speeds.

Some older ones if plugged into a double socket with another item plugged in beside it is known for restrictions.

keano25

degsie wrote: »

Unfortunately yes. Manufactures never publish 'real world' data on these only 'ideal' speeds in a lab setup. Imperfect home wiring is usually the culprit. Have a think about mesh wifi with satellites that provide a wired connection. Might be a better option.

Thanks degsie.. ya if I could get close to say 100mbps on the mesh over WiFi I would invest the money in it..

keano25

greasepalm wrote: »

I would ask if any extensions are in use which can restrict speeds.

Some older ones if plugged into a double socket with another item plugged in beside it is known for restrictions.

No extension just straight into the wall

ED E

keano25 wrote: »

No extension just straight into the wall

AV200 are the oldest generation of EoP. AV600 up are the newer system. My AV1200s do 140Mb consistently, if the signal conditions in your house aren't terrible newer units may be faster. Better to get some from the like of Argos where you can return if they don't.

keano25

ED E wrote: »

AV200 are the oldest generation of EoP. AV600 up are the newer system. My AV1200s do 140Mb consistently, if the signal conditions in your house aren't terrible newer units may be faster. Better to get some from the like of Argos where you can return if they don't.

And what speed would you get straight from your router?

Stone

keano25 wrote: »

Thanks degsie.. ya if I could get close to say 100mbps on the mesh over WiFi I would invest the money in it..

For what's it's worth - I have a mesh network (3 units) in my 2 story house and get an avg. of 200mbit/s wireless anywhere, even in the garden - so it depends on your mesh units as well as what your device wireless cards can pull ...
I use a "TENDA Nova MW6" setup - not fancy at all and rather cheap, but they work

Wishox

What type of cable are you using for both plugs ? you should be using at least a cat 5e cable, also check if there is a firmware update for your plugs, Lastly make sure the plugs re in the wall socket and not in a extension lead. Sometimes the simple things help :-)

ED E

keano25 wrote: »

And what speed would you get straight from your router?

240, but that's not relevant, the speed of the homeplugs is an absolute value not proportional to your WAN speed.

jhud

Some of these have setting for either power saving or eco mode make sure this is off some drop speeds if enabled. Mine are different model and they had this power saving on giving me bad speeds.

richardw001

The other things to bear in mind:

An Ethernet cable has like 8 copper wires - the electrical wiring (which the homeplugs piggyback on) maybe 3 - so you will never get the same throughput no matter how good the homeplugs are.

You could take a look at anything on the electrical loop that could be causing interference - Its not just the sockets that the home plugs are connected to that you need to be concerned about.



Going with wifi mesh is probably the best option - you can pick up something usable for about 100 euro

degsie

richardw001 wrote: »

The other things to bear in mind:

An Ethernet cable has like 8 copper wires - the electrical wiring (which the homeplugs piggyback on) maybe 3 - so you will never get the same throughput no matter how good the homeplugs are.

Wire count has absolutely nothing to do with homeplug throughput.

richardw001

degsie wrote: »

Wire count has absolutely nothing to do with homeplug throughput.

Okay - sorry if I've confused things - my understanding is you need all 8 strands on ethernet cables to get Gigabit speeds - not sure how you can achieve that with the limited wire count on an electrical network using homeplugs?

ED E

richardw001 wrote: »

Okay - sorry if I've confused things - my understanding is you need all 8 strands on ethernet cables to get Gigabit speeds - not sure how you can achieve that with the limited wire count on an electrical network using homeplugs?

You're correct, you practically can't. UTP uses 8 strands for 1G full duplex, Homplugs are half duplex. So in napkin maths theory you need 4 conductors but have two. Really though a short length of 5E could probably manage 10g so its not as simple as that....


EoP is a big fat bodge, just like dial up was a bodge on the POTS phone system. Itll always fall flat when compared to a real solution. Still has its place (Im using them right now).