Elica induction hob with extraction

misc2013

Hi. Researching an induction hob for an island in new kitchen extension. Saw this one and was wondering if anyone had experience of it?

Elica NikolaTesla Prime Induction Hob with Extractor | NIKOPRIMEREC85

We're learning that to have a hob on out island, we will need a downdraft system for extraction and between recirculation and duct, are veering towards duct.

Any thoughts welcome, or any better recommendations? This one seems to be the cheapest as well so a but wary...

Calahonda52

As an aside, do you expect any residual head in the IH when you take off the pot and it goes off: just wonder from a safety perspective?
if its dark but hot!

Alun

Calahonda52 wrote: »

As an aside, do you expect any residual head in the IH when you take off the pot and it goes off: just wonder from a safety perspective?
if its dark but hot!

The only residual heat in an induction hob is that which was conducted from the pan to the glass. While you'd not want to put your hand on it after you take a pan off it, it's not even remotely as hot as a conventional ceramic hob would be and certainly not dangerous.

Calahonda52

Alun wrote: »

The only residual heat in an induction hob is that which was conducted from the pan to the glass. While you'd not want to put your hand on it after you take a pan off it, it's not even remotely as hot as a conventional ceramic hob would be and certainly not dangerous.

Thanks, thats what I thought, just checking! Hope all is well with you.

bifl

misc2013 wrote: »

Hi. Researching an induction hob for an island in new kitchen extension. Saw this one and was wondering if anyone had experience of it?

Elica NikolaTesla Prime Induction Hob with Extractor | NIKOPRIMEREC85

We're learning that to have a hob on out island, we will need a downdraft system for extraction and between recirculation and duct, are veering towards duct.

Any thoughts welcome, or any better recommendations? This one seems to be the cheapest as well so a but wary...

Hi,
We went with the NikolaTesla switch. Main reason like you as we went for a hob on the island. It has the option for both recirc and ducted, personally I went with duct for two reasons one I didn't was a bulkhead or an extractor coming down to the island in the centre or the room. The second reason was airtightness, the house was built with a good level of airtightness and didn't want to a) stick a hole in my wall and b) start pushing hot air out. Also, with an island there is a bit of a ducting required to get the fumes out to an external wall. Did I read somewhere this long length can see temps drop and grease in the pipework. Ideally if going ducted it should be by the wall and out (google that point though maybe)

I looked at a lot of carbon type induction hobs and what swung me to the Elisa was you could reactivate the carbon filters. I looked a Miele, Neff and Siemens amongst others and they were all straight replacements (at the time circa 2.5 years ago). I though the cost would add up where I can get a number of goes with the existing filters.

We do find it good, not that we do huge amount of frying etc but I have stuck my nose down to the duct when cooking a steak and thought there was much of the odour gone (maybe that was in my head). Overall, though generally speaking I can't complain about smells in the house (is that filter, house, I'm not sure).

The fan can pull in the vapours around it, which was a worry before buying. Full power it is noise but does do its job. One thing I would change if you go ducted is that I you place the duct somewhere you are not standing. My duct is underneath the hob so when you are standing there you do get a draft. I (in hindsight) but the duct on another side of the island.

My 2c anyway, let me know if you have any more questions.

bifl

bifl wrote: »

Hi,
We went with the NikolaTesla switch. Main reason like you as we went for a hob on the island. It has the option for both recirc and ducted, personally I went with duct for two reasons one I didn't was a bulkhead or an extractor coming down to the island in the centre or the room. The second reason was airtightness, the house was built with a good level of airtightness and didn't want to a) stick a hole in my wall and b) start pushing hot air out. Also, with an island there is a bit of a ducting required to get the fumes out to an external wall. Did I read somewhere this long length can see temps drop and grease in the pipework. Ideally if going ducted it should be by the wall and out (google that point though maybe)

I looked at a lot of carbon type induction hobs and what swung me to the Elisa was you could reactivate the carbon filters. I looked a Miele, Neff and Siemens amongst others and they were all straight replacements (at the time circa 2.5 years ago). I though the cost would add up where I can get a number of goes with the existing filters.

We do find it good, not that we do huge amount of frying etc but I have stuck my nose down to the duct when cooking a steak and thought there was much of the odour gone (maybe that was in my head). Overall, though generally speaking I can't complain about smells in the house (is that filter, house, I'm not sure).

The fan can pull in the vapours around it, which was a worry before buying. Full power it is noise but does do its job. One thing I would change if you go ducted is that I you place the duct somewhere you are not standing. My duct is underneath the hob so when you are standing there you do get a draft. I (in hindsight) but the duct on another side of the island.

My 2c anyway, let me know if you have any more questions.

Sorry folks, I just re-read this. I'm getting my ducting and recirc mixed up.

I went with the recirc option. So in effect the only ducting is from my hob and out from the isalnd and into the room. See my point though on where to position the outlet to avoind air blowing at your feet when cooking.

50HX

Great Post, thank you

If you were starting again would you buy it

Ryath

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116568023#Comment_116568023

If it's okay to bump this are you still happy with the Elica? Set on a downdraft hob for new kitchen and torn between Elica and a Neff N70. Ikea version is also an option which is made by Elica. Not going with an Ikea kitchen though so would need to figure out the fitting as Ikea cabinets are deeper than standard. Ikea hob does come with plinth recirculation parts but they seem to be their own design so may need a bit of bodging.

Elica is cheapest option at €1210 if I buy from Italy, Can get the Neff N70 locally for €1800 with free pots and pans and think there seems to be a €250 cash back option live at the moment. Ikea is €1600 Another 200 or so for Elica venting kits depending if I put out back, under, through plinth or vent outside. Neff does include parts to recirculation to vent straight out back into cavity behind the cabinets but don't think that's the best option onto an external wall that only has pumped cavity insulation. Neff recirculation kit is €150.

I do quite like the Neff and Ikea hobs zones are all identical power so it makes for more predictable cooking on all 4 rings and can move pots around as needed. There is a dearer Elica with identical powered cooking zones but it's a lot dearer than the Neff. Have an Ikea Induction hob nearly 14 years now and very pleased with it. All 4 zones are identical with boost function. Was tempted to stick with it and go with an overhead but we are set on the down draft hob now as we don't have any over cabinet presses in the new kitchen.

https://www.fabappliances.com/en/hobs-with-integrated-extractor/4234-elica-induction-extractor-hob-nikola-tesla-velvet-black-607083-cm-8020283058835.html#/175-size-83_cm

https://www.ikea.com/ie/en/p/foerdelaktig-induction-hob-integrated-extractor-ikea-700-black-50449403/

https://www.fabappliances.com/en/hobs-with-integrated-extractor/2384-elica-induction-extractor-hob-nikola-tesla-switch-83-cm.html

If I do vent externally I'll fit one of these.

https://munsterdiy.com/collections/airtight-products/products/thermobox-150-150mm-airtight-cooker-hood-damper?variant=28343518888035

Elica reactivatable carbon filters do seem a big plus though the Bosch/Neff versions are much cheaper so over life time maybe not much different in cost. I do dislike disposable consumables though.

https://www.fabappliances.com/en/accessories-for-range-hoods/3094-elica-ceramic-filter-kit-for-nikoltesla-fit.html

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0BFMMP6BC?psc=1

Sorry for link dump saves me book marking them! Very hard find reviews and info about these.

50HX

The slider controls on the Elica makes it v user friendly.

I tried a bosch one where the + button is used to control the power....pain in the hoop

bifl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890551#Comment_122890551

Hi, it's working away fine, to be honest I've only reactivated the carbon twice in about 5 years. Probably due another trip into the oven. On point on that 2nd reactivation, which I didn't notice on the first try, had quite quite a sharp acrid smell resulting from it. I think the next time I'll do it on a nice day and be prepared to open the windows. Again, overall can't comment about there being lingering odors around the house so in my book it's doing what it says on the tin.