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The journal

  • 06-03-2021 8:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    Some woke news outlet, you can't leave a comment on anything thats a bit touchy in the country... at least boards will let you have a discussion ...yay or nay?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭Doctor Roast


    The journal comment section leaves me looking forward to death..


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Comments sections are almost exclusively inhabited by idiots. Don't let yourself get dragged into it. Run while you still can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    The Journal close comments primarily because they don't want the subject or group of people in the article getting criticism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,424 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    THE BIG BUSINESS LOBBY GROUPS CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANOTHER ELECTION. THEY ARE TOAST IF THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF THEIR WOKE IDEALS AND HOW THEY RUINED THE SPICY CHICKEN FILLET ROLL.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    They'll allow comments on a shooting in Dublin but won't allow any on woke subjects like trans, traveler crime, etc. or anything which could land them in court such as John Delaney. It's pathetic really. No divergence from the official covid narrative either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Comment sections are turned off if there is any chance that what the article is discussing is sub judice.

    Today, anything to do with the Cork protests has that risk, as there have been arrests and will presumably be prosecutions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    the journal serves only one purpose...thats to create division in society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    the journal serves only one purpose...thats to create division in society.

    ... or to employ cheap amateur journos whilst avoiding expensive lawyer problems :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It used to just copy stories from better news outlets, does it do mostly it’s own stuff now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Normal One wrote: »
    ... or to employ cheap amateur journos whilst avoiding expensive lawyer problems :D

    You're being decent calling them Journos. Some of them aren't even related to a journalist


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    L1011 wrote: »
    Comment sections are turned off if there is any chance that what the article is discussing is sub judice.
    .

    Correct. But they tend to close comments on a lot more than that.
    And in some cases, comments remain closed long after a court case is settled.

    Yet, Facebook pages for the likes of the Irish Times and Independent can accept comments on ongoing cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,860 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Aren't the Journal and boards owned by the same group?

    Actually yep.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/about-us/


    "In 2018 Boards.ie, Ireland’s largest online community forum, joined the Journal Media family"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭fantaiscool


    They tend to ban racist, homophobic, transphobic, weird conspiracy theory type comments yeah. I can see how that would bother some people who hold those views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,860 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    When I put up a link to SFs open border policy I was banned, removed and no reason given.

    Tried messaging them but was just ignored.

    It's a left wing news outlet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The gript ran a story recently about the journal had posted fact checked stories that weren't actually checked if I read correctly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    They tend to ban racist, homophobic, transphobic, weird conspiracy theory type comments yeah. I can see how that would bother some people who hold those views.

    I'm gay ....fantaiscool don't be telling me as a guy person what I can comment on stay in your lane... you seem to be one of these offended people over everything ... not all gay people agree in this weird conspiracy theory you talk about ... and as a gay person please don't be white knighting for us all... hugs and kisses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    ... and as a gay person please don't be white knighting for us all... hugs and kisses

    LOL. That sound you hear is a one-dimensional little brain exploding 😊


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,055 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I avoid the Journal like the plague.
    Full of sensationalist rubbish designed to catch the gullible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭beerguts


    I'd imagine their ad revenue is decimated, don't be surprised if it goes under within the next year. It cannot be sustainable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Correct. But they tend to close comments on a lot more than that.
    And in some cases, comments remain closed long after a court case is settled.

    Yet, Facebook pages for the likes of the Irish Times and Independent can accept comments on ongoing cases.

    They're never going to go back and reopen comments on old articles

    Facebook is responsible for posts there, and are vastly richer than any media organisation should they get sued.
    Gatling wrote: »
    The gript ran a story recently about the journal had posted fact checked stories that weren't actually checked if I read correctly

    Gript is not a news source to believe, for anything, ever. Its not actually a news source, its Youth Defences blog.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's basically a place for sadists and masochists to get each other off, the left wing journos write articles to torture their right wing comment section, who profess to hate it, but can't stop themselves coming back for more.

    It's sick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's basically a place for sadists and masochists to get each other off, the left wing journos write articles to torture their right wing comment section, who profess to hate it, but can't stop themselves coming back for more.

    It's sick

    Political mutual masturbation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    You're being decent calling them Journos. Some of them aren't even related to a journalist

    Job Spec:

    Ability to operate CTRL+C. CTRL+V functions would be an advantage.

    Jokeshop of a site.




  • Used to be my go to app. But nowadays an absolute steaming pile of ****e. May check it once every 3 days.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Actually, nope.

    Boards is on its own again. In case you missed the announcement here in December. No longer connected to Journal Media. I just think the respective bits of each site have yet to be updated.
    Aren't the Journal and boards owned by the same group?

    Actually yep.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/about-us/


    "In 2018 Boards.ie, Ireland’s largest online community forum, joined the Journal Media family"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,671 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    the journal serves only one purpose...thats to create division in society.

    And supply experts to Matt Coopers The Last Word.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gatling wrote: »
    The gript ran a story recently about the journal had posted fact checked stories that weren't actually checked if I read correctly

    Well gript would certainly know about publishing bullsh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,169 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Shield wrote: »
    Actually, nope.

    Boards is on its own again. In case you missed the announcement here in December. No longer connected to Journal Media. I just think the respective bits of each site have yet to be updated.

    Haven't heard anything about the initiatives mentioned in that post since. Or possibly I just missed the posts?

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    L1011 wrote: »
    They're never going to go back and reopen comments on old articles

    I am not referring to old articles.

    They have posted new features relating to concluded / historic cases and still turned off the comments.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Shield wrote: »
    Actually, nope.

    Boards is on its own again. In case you missed the announcement here in December. No longer connected to Journal Media. I just think the respective bits of each site have yet to be updated.


    But ultimately, aren't Boards and The Journal both still owned by Tom, Distilled SCH and Daft.ie?

    I think the founder John Breslin has completely moved on, not sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    They posted an article this morning warning about online disinformation, without a hint of irony. You can only admire that type of bravado.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    keano_afc wrote: »
    They posted an article this morning warning about online disinformation, without a hint of irony. You can only admire that type of bravado.

    They are very lacking in self-awareness. They deal in nothing but one sided politics, which isn't an opinion, it's a fact, you can see it in nearly every opinion piece they publish. Nearly everything they push even out side of opinion pieces has a progressive spin too. If any NGO or politician on their side want to push something radical, they'll be given a platform. It's pure naked partisan nonsense dressed up as journalism.

    Indeed, it's not. You're not meant to be censorship warden, yet you choose to be one. Modern journalists honestly think themselves saviors of our planet, the enlightened keeping the plebs in check, yet they are nothing but jesters to the vast majority of sane people.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    keano_afc wrote: »
    They posted an article this morning warning about online disinformation, without a hint of irony. You can only admire that type of bravado.

    Not even an article but an opinion piece. They closed the comments to that opinion piece incase someone might have a different opinion to their opinion piece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    When thejournal close a comment section on a crime story, its usually a pretty solid indicator that a minority person or traveller is the perpetrator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    beerguts wrote: »
    I'd imagine their ad revenue is decimated, don't be surprised if it goes under within the next year. It cannot be sustainable.


    They were asking readers for money not too long ago. That was before covid. Haven't seen anything since it started so it must be lucrative. They probably have some nice government/HSE covid ad revenue.

    Which is the explainer itself on why Irish media seem to want this to go on for longer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    They were asking readers for money not too long ago. That was before covid. Haven't seen anything since it started so it must be lucrative. They probably have some nice government/HSE covid ad revenue.

    Which is the explainer itself on why Irish media seem to want this to go on for longer.

    The government covid ads have saved atleast 1 print title in Ireland and been a soft bailout for many others, they are probably the only customer in the world paying full ratecard for print advertising anymore, i dont think the media want the pandemic itself to go on longer , but they damn sure want the advertising slush fund to continue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,860 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Shield wrote: »
    Actually, nope.

    Boards is on its own again. In case you missed the announcement here in December. No longer connected to Journal Media. I just think the respective bits of each site have yet to be updated.

    Yes I did miss that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    A lot of the time the comments section was just abuse, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia or racism so it's probably a good idea not to give that kind of stuff a platform.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    This is not a current affairs issue, closed.


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