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Decision Making for Dummies

  • 05-03-2021 11:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭


    I have been indecisive, since I was a child. I can never seem to make a decision, even on small things like dinner, what movie to see, whether to buy something or not, etc.

    I'm now in a position where I can continue working in Ireland, or accept a job in China. I don't know anyone living in China, I don't speak the language, and I know if I move I will have 3 weeks of quarantine and will find it near impossible to get home for about a year.

    The pay, on the other hand, is great. Low cost of living coupled with no rent and little to no bills would be a dream for saving. It's just miles away from my family and everything I know. I'm at a loss, and have a week to decide.

    Any advice on making decisions would be greatly appreciated!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭17togo


    I have been indecisive, since I was a child. I can never seem to make a decision, even on small things like dinner, what movie to see, whether to buy something or not, etc.

    I'm now in a position where I can continue working in Ireland, or accept a job in China. I don't know anyone living in China, I don't speak the language, and I know if I move I will have 3 weeks of quarantine and will find it near impossible to get home for about a year.

    The pay, on the other hand, is great. Low cost of living coupled with no rent and little to no bills would be a dream for saving. It's just miles away from my family and everything I know. I'm at a loss, and have a week to decide.

    Any advice on making decisions would be greatly appreciated!

    Anal swabs for covid are mandatory in China now for anyone entering the country, so that may help your decision making! :-D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,809 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Accepting a job and moving to China is a little different decision wise to figuring out what to have for dinner. :eek:

    Someone could be the most decisive person in the world but be unable to make that decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭auspicious


    You'll have a lifetime ahead of you wondering what if. It could be the making of you. You'll know a whole lot more upon your return. What's a year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    You stay, I’ll go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Whatever you choose it'll be a learning experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    Start with a Chinese for dinner and see how you feel then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Can you easily get another job? If so, and you've no ties, I'd give it a shot and try living in an different country


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    If you move to a different culture and don't speak the language you'll have to learn to make decisions.

    It's a year as has been mentioned and it gives you a chance to move out of your comfort zone while being financially secure. Pack a bag and enjoy the experience.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yester wrote: »
    Start with a Chinese for dinner and see how you feel then.

    Apparently over there they just call it "food"..

    Go OP..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭rtron


    Time is running out op.
    Don't let time make the decision for you.
    Edit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Sounds to me like you’re running away from your problems here, what are you going to have for dinner when you get to China?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    frag420 wrote: »
    Sounds to me like you’re running away from your problems here, what are you going to have for dinner when you get to China?

    Chicken curry, fried rice, chips and prawn crackers obviously. :p:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Chicken curry, fried rice, chips and prawn crackers obviously. :p:

    More like fried chicken feet you have to gnaw the one half inch of gristle off of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    More like fried chicken feet you have to gnaw the one half inch of gristle off of.

    After 8 cans that sound delish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    The question is should you go to "put name of city here" in China not so much should you go to China.

    You should research that particular city and try to contact the Irish community there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭con747


    Yester wrote: »
    Start with a Chinese for dinner and see how you feel then.

    Is that not called being a cannibal :pac:

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Do it. If you're at a stage in your life where you've got moving to china for a year as an option go for it. You'll probably never have the opportunity again. Also you're far more likely to regret not taking the plunge than regretting taking the chance for a year of your life.

    Plus you'll likely come back with a heap of savings along with a very interesting and life changing experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    jiltloop wrote: »
    Do it. If you're at a stage in your life where you've got moving to china for a year as an option go for it. You'll probably never have the opportunity again. Also you're far more likely to regret not taking the plunge than regretting taking the chance for a year of your life.

    Plus you'll likely come back with a heap of savings along with a very interesting and life changing experience.

    For.sure, it's tougher to regret the things you didn't do that the things you did do. Unless it's more cans, I always regret more cans.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    More like fried chicken feet you have to gnaw the one half inch of gristle off of.

    Whist you with your reality! Have some deep fried chicken balls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    Whist you with your reality! Have some deep fried chicken balls.

    A fine delicacy. What I'd do for a spice bag and curry sauce right now.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This is it wrote: »
    A fine delicacy. What I'd do for a spice bag and curry sauce right now.

    Authentic Chinese cuisine, and we're lucky that it's so readily available here. Free calander for the new year too.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    Authentic Chinese cuisine, and we're lucky that it's so readily available here. Free calander for the new year too.

    :pac:

    My local Chinese does Apache pizza, doesn't get more authentatious than that.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This is it wrote: »
    My local Chinese does Apache pizza, doesn't get more authentatious than that.

    It doesn't, I'm jealous. You must be nearly fluent in Mandarin at this stage and have huge chicken balls, even if you're a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Raffo69


    Give it a go. Only thing to look forward to in this country right now is tax increases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    It doesn't, I'm jealous. You must be nearly fluent in Mandarin at this stage and have huge chicken balls, even if you're a woman.

    Mandarin? Clementines out my way darling.

    Right, no more drink for me.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    This is it wrote: »
    Mandarin? Clementines out my way darling.

    Right, no more drink for me.

    Some rice wine will help you and your oranges sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Whist you with your reality! Have some deep fried chicken balls.

    Any kind of balls would be welcome right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭This is it


    Some rice wine will help you and your oranges sleep.

    Yep, time to wine down.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Any kind of balls would be welcome right now.

    Wouldn't they just!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    I've a cousin teaching over there, she loves it. She's made great friends and met her partner as well (an Irish bloke tho lol). Judging by her social media there is plenty to do. She's actually been to a pub in a month other than December the past 12 months.

    Anyone who has a chance at getting out of this country should do it. There are way more opportunities to have a decent career, usually a lower cost of living (most of the jobs here are in the one super expensive city), better weather, and a more diverse population in the larger countries. The greatest thing about Ireland is the people and basically the best thing we can do to improve our lot is be our own export. Many countries will welcome us as we are not only known as the friendly, charming, funny, slightly mad drunks but we are educated, hard working, and honest (as in we don't steal, other than a certain culture. We don't always say what we mean or want to say tho).

    You can always come back. Many do. I did and tbh wish I hadn't. It's dreary, cramped and damp and most workplaces are dead end hellholes with lots of petty ass annoying people, lickarses, jobsworth cnuts, power tripping assistant managers, and subpar canteens. And then they tax you to the hilt if you dare make enough money to afford the ridiculous rents or houses which are priced like mansions even though 90% of the bedrooms in this country you barely have enough room to stand up and walk around the edge of the bed, you have to wash your clothes in the kitchen and dry your skivvies there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    I've a cousin teaching over there, she loves it. She's made great friends and met her partner as well (an Irish bloke tho lol). Judging by her social media there is plenty to do. She's actually been to a pub in a month other than December the past 12 months.

    Anyone who has a chance at getting out of this country should do it. There are way more opportunities to have a decent career, usually a lower cost of living (most of the jobs here are in the one super expensive city), better weather, and a more diverse population in the larger countries. The greatest thing about Ireland is the people and basically the best thing we can do to improve our lot is be our own export. Many countries will welcome us as we are not only known as the friendly, charming, funny, slightly mad drunks but we are educated, hard working, and honest (as in we don't steal, other than a certain culture. We don't always say what we mean or want to say tho).

    You can always come back. Many do. I did and tbh wish I hadn't. It's dreary, cramped and damp and most workplaces are dead end hellholes with lots of petty ass annoying people, lickarses, jobsworth cnuts, power tripping assistant managers, and subpar canteens. And then they tax you to the hilt if you dare make enough money to afford the ridiculous rents or houses which are priced like mansions even though 90% of the bedrooms in this country you barely have enough room to stand up and walk around the edge of the bed, you have to wash your clothes in the kitchen and dry your skivvies there too.

    Have you no washing machine. Talk about misery porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Go and see for yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Daragh1980


    I have been indecisive, since I was a child. I can never seem to make a decision, even on small things like dinner, what movie to see, whether to buy something or not, etc.

    I'm now in a position where I can continue working in Ireland, or accept a job in China. I don't know anyone living in China, I don't speak the language, and I know if I move I will have 3 weeks of quarantine and will find it near impossible to get home for about a year.

    The pay, on the other hand, is great. Low cost of living coupled with no rent and little to no bills would be a dream for saving. It's just miles away from my family and everything I know. I'm at a loss, and have a week to decide.

    Any advice on making decisions would be greatly appreciated!

    The Chinese are a very cruel race. I wouldn’t go there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Daragh1980 wrote: »
    The Chinese are a very cruel race. I wouldn’t go there

    I spent about 2 minutes reading and re-reading this, looking for the hilarious pun I assumed was hidden within it, only to realise it really was just the pig-ignorant nonsense that it appeared at first glance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Try it. It's got to be better than asking Boards for life changing advice.

    Wait a second...
    Daragh1980 wrote: »
    The Chinese are a very cruel race. I wouldn’t go there

    Better than a country that chucked thousands of babies into a septic tank?

    Yeah, sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    China be a good destination bro, the Xi Jinping and the CCP will make your decisions for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Better than a country that chucked thousands of babies into a septic tank?

    Yeah, sure.

    We made up for it by nurturing thousands of african ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭Allinall


    OP. You’re not involved in aircraft leasing by any chance?

    If so......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    international experience always looks good on a CV and chinese will be a good language to learn. I think you should go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭PeterPan92


    Counterpoint. China is extremely hard to get a visa into at the minute. Many people are being offered jobs, then the Visa is being denied and they are left with no job and no support. If you can defer the offer I would do that. I was looking at going teaching in China this year but no one can guarantee me a Visa to enter the country.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have been indecisive, since I was a child. I can never seem to make a decision, even on small things like dinner, what movie to see, whether to buy something or not, etc.

    I'm now in a position where I can continue working in Ireland, or accept a job in China. I don't know anyone living in China, I don't speak the language, and I know if I move I will have 3 weeks of quarantine and will find it near impossible to get home for about a year.

    The pay, on the other hand, is great. Low cost of living coupled with no rent and little to no bills would be a dream for saving. It's just miles away from my family and everything I know. I'm at a loss, and have a week to decide.

    Any advice on making decisions would be greatly appreciated!

    The Chinese like decisive action, so maybe not !


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you're single, go for it. I was in a position for a few years where my income was pretty decent and my costs minimal, so I committed to a few years of living very simply and saving like a demon which made us able to plonk a decent deposit on our first house, it was a great head start. And you might just love it anyway.

    If I was going to China I would become vegetarian, at least for the most part. Be prepared to be lonely for company with the same cultural background, and try make sure you've access to good internet so you can keep in touch as much as you need to take the edge off. If you go for it, the cost/benefit analysis is stacked in your favor but only if you have a goal in mind and are determined to just get on with it. That way everything extra is a bonus.

    It could be a magnificent adventure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Looks like the OP hasn't made a decision yet as to posting again.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    I have been indecisive, since I was a child. I can never seem to make a decision, even on small things like dinner, what movie to see, whether to buy something or not, etc.

    I'm now in a position where I can continue working in Ireland, or accept a job in China. I don't know anyone living in China, I don't speak the language, and I know if I move I will have 3 weeks of quarantine and will find it near impossible to get home for about a year.

    The pay, on the other hand, is great. Low cost of living coupled with no rent and little to no bills would be a dream for saving. It's just miles away from my family and everything I know. I'm at a loss, and have a week to decide.

    Any advice on making decisions would be greatly appreciated!

    Go for it! I m trying to get something like this going post covid
    brilliant opportunity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    Feck it, we'll all go. We could take over a small area in Beijing. Set up a few pubs, few restaurants, be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭ByTheSea2019


    Would you like the experience of travelling and working in China for a while? You say you don't know anyone in China. If this is important to you are you likely to miss home or embrace the adventure?

    Do you want the career opportunity? How does it compare to whatever you are giving up? I would tend not to decide based on good pay unless the pay is so enormous you can pay off half your mortgage when you get back or something.

    These are the two things I would be assessing - do I want the job, do I want the life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Authentic Chinese cuisine, and we're lucky that it's so readily available here. Free calander for the new year too.

    :pac:
    There were no calendars for me this year from the Chinese. Do they know something I don't? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Chinese don’t actually eat Chinese food, same as Italians don’t eat cod and chips


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭LittleBrick


    Thanks to everyone for their replies. I have decided not to proceed at this point. The main reason for this is the restricted VISA for working in China at the minute. They are difficult to get, and the company cannot guarantee me one. They are "hopeful", but I would be leaving my job here before confirming whether I can get a visa or not.

    Additionally, once I get into the country it would be near impossible to leave. I have close relatives who are older with some medical conditions, and the thoughts of being abroad, not being able to get home if something were to happen, is terrifying. In a normal year I would go, and hopefully the opportunity will present itself again in the future.


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