Attaching new fence to H posts

D3V!L

The fence dividing mine and the neighbours gardens is the basic wooden fence panel held up by concrete fence posts. Similar to this -



They're pushing 20 years old now and starting to fall apart. I couldn't be bothered replacing them as I would have to pay in full as neighbours on each side are a bunch of see you next Tuesdays. :rolleyes:

I thought about attaching battons to the existing concrete H posts and then running a vertical slat fence on them. Similar to this idea (not my drawing)



Two questions with this. Would the H posts support the weight and what is the maximum height I can go to? Seeing as this is no longer the dividing wall.

karlitob

Don’t know about the first question but for the second question (and what would I know) but on reviewing the Land and Conveyancing Act 201(?)7 which i did because of our neighbours - anything on - or so near that it’s continuous - would be considered the fence. It might be a consideration but something attached to an adjoining fence such as concrete post and fence could be considered the fence. And because of that - using my logic - the max height of a fence is 2.1m (not sure if that’s a law or council regs).

My other thought was that the height would be dependent on what the fence could take.

I doubt they’ll be out with a ruler. What height were you thinking.

D3V!L

karlitob wrote: »

Don’t know about the first question but for the second question (and what would I know) but on reviewing the Land and Conveyancing Act 201(?)7 which i did because of our neighbours - anything on - or so near that it’s continuous - would be considered the fence. It might be a consideration but something attached to an adjoining fence such as concrete post and fence could be considered the fence. And because of that - using my logic - the max height of a fence is 2.1m (not sure if that’s a law or council regs).

My other thought was that the height would be dependent on what the fence could take.

I doubt they’ll be out with a ruler. What height were you thinking.

Height wise, 1.8 meters. It would be well above eye level so more privacy.

wait4me

Can I ask how you intend to attach the battens to the H-posts? Can you drill through a H- post?

D3V!L

wait4me wrote: »

Can I ask how you intend to attach the battens to the H-posts? Can you drill through a H- post?

They're re-enforced concrete. I've yet to test how easy it would be to put a large bolt some of the way in.

CoBo55

I wouldn't try putting a bolt into a H post they're very crumbly and I'd see them either pulling out or if using expanding Rawl bolts splitting apart as soon as you try to tighten the expanding part.

D3V!L

CoBo55 wrote: »

I wouldn't try putting a bolt into a H post they're very crumbly and I'd see them either pulling out or if using expanding Rawl bolts splitting apart as soon as you try to tighten the expanding part.

Any other suggestions ?

Tony H

I tried drilling through H posts a while back , to put a sat dish on , the only place to drill without them cracking is the center and very narrow drill bit ,mine cracked a bit with a 10 mm bit ,
my ones had rebar inside as well so increased the fun , have since replace fence with a block wall , no maintenance and will outlast me .

CoBo55

D3V!L wrote: »

Any other suggestions ?

Tbh I'd go the easy route and just get new panels. I got lovely double sided panels I lashed on a bit of outdoor varnish and I'm expecting them to last years.

D3V!L

CoBo55 wrote: »

Tbh I'd go the easy route and just get new panels. I got lovely double sided panels I lashed on a bit of outdoor varnish and I'm expecting them to last years.

Thats the thing, I'm not prepared to foot the bill for the neighbours fences. So thats out of the question.

I drilled a test hole with a 10 mill bit and went down to 8cm. No issues or resistance.

Iodine1

You can get special screws to go straight into concrete, no expanding parts or plugs involved. Screws and bore must match so use 10mm for 10mm bit etc. They are very tight and very strong, and various lengths are available. Enquire in hardware / farm stores where the staff are clued in.

D3V!L

Iodine1 wrote: »

You can get special screws to go straight into concrete, no expanding parts or plugs involved. Screws and bore must match so use 10mm for 10mm bit etc. They are very tight and very strong, and various lengths are available. Enquire in hardware / farm stores where the staff are clued in.

Thanks, thats the ones I plan on using. My gates are mounted straight to the wall of the house with them and the gates are 3m wide.

GreeBo

D3V!L wrote: »

Thats the thing, I'm not prepared to foot the bill for the neighbours fences. So thats out of the question.

I dont get this, you will be paying for your own fence, your neighbour will just happen to be able to see the other side of it.

Far cheaper than you building your own fence inside the existing one just so the neighbour cant see your new fence.
Or am I missing something?

D3V!L

GreeBo wrote: »

I dont get this, you will be paying for your own fence, your neighbour will just happen to be able to see the other side of it.

Far cheaper than you building your own fence inside the existing one just so the neighbour cant see your new fence.
Or am I missing something?

No, they wont , it will barely be visible from their side as the existing fence is staying in place.

GreeBo

D3V!L wrote: »

No, they wont , it will barely be visible from their side as the existing fence is staying in place.

I mean if you just pay to replace the existing fence they will.

tbh it seems like you are happy to end up paying more for your own fence just to spite your neighbours from being able to see it...

And what will you do if in a year the neighbours just take down the existing panels and are happy to see the other side of your new fence?

D3V!L

GreeBo wrote: »

I mean if you just pay to replace the existing fence they will.

tbh it seems like you are happy to end up paying more for your own fence just to spite your neighbours from being able to see it...

And what will you do if in a year the neighbours just take down the existing panels and are happy to see the other side of your new fence?

Sorry forgot to mention I'd be gaining a little height on one side of the garden as we can see straight into the neighbours over the existing fence. That would be a big deciding factor for this whole project.

CoBo55

Iodine1 wrote: »

You can get special screws to go straight into concrete, no expanding parts or plugs involved. Screws and bore must match so use 10mm for 10mm bit etc. They are very tight and very strong, and various lengths are available. Enquire in hardware / farm stores where the staff are clued in.

I'd be afraid they'd pull out or the H post would start to crumble to bits when you're screwing them in. They need a lot of force. How many sheets are you covering over?

D3V!L

Wife is at home today so I decided to run this by her. As usual, my convoluted plans were shot down :rolleyes:

Found a better solution to my need for a taller fence,

Put 1.8m panels in and make infillers for the gaps like in the video. It'd be considerably cheaper and less time-consuming.

CoBo55

Will the neighbours be ok with you working in their garden? I'm lucky in that respect.

karlitob

D3V!L wrote: »

Thats the thing, I'm not prepared to foot the bill for the neighbours fences. So thats out of the question.

I drilled a test hole with a 10 mill bit and went down to 8cm. No issues or resistance.

Just to say - you can’t do anything to a party structure that can damage it. Now you won’t break it obviously but you can crack it and they’d be well within their rights to be pissed off.

D3V!L

CoBo55 wrote: »

Will the neighbours be ok with you working in their garden? I'm lucky in that respect.

I won't have to be in their garden. There will be a 1 foot extra gap that I can get from a step ladder. Also I'm quite tall so it won't be a problem.

GreeBo

If thats all you really want would you not just stick a trellis topper on top?


either way you are going to have to talk to them since you are altering their fence.

D3V!L

GreeBo wrote: »

If thats all you really want would you not just stick a trellis topper on top?


either way you are going to have to talk to them since you are altering their fence.

The current fence panels are completely rotten , we had talked about replacing them in the past.

GreeBo

D3V!L wrote: »

The current fence panels are completely rotten , we had talked about replacing them in the past.

Weird, they dont look *at all* bad in your OP!

D3V!L

GreeBo wrote: »

Weird, they dont look *at all* bad in your OP!

That's not my fence

It's a stock photo.