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Looking to buy small plot for self sufficiency

  • 28-02-2021 11:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭


    Hiya

    I was wondering if there is anywhere specific I should be looking to try and buy an acre or so of land for greenhouses/allotment growing? I won't be doing any large scale crops, and at most would be raising chickens (if even). I'd like access to water and electricity though.

    I've been looking at the usual myhome/daft etc in the industrial/farming section - but everything seems to be mental pricing and very little availability.

    Am I looking in the wrong places? How much should I expect to pay for a small piece of land with existing power/water?

    Ideally midlands. Thanks for any advice at all - I'm new!


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do you mean by powered?
    Something with a mains connection would probably be either a farm yard or a house.

    At that size you are competing with home builders.

    It has come up before that it is probably easier to buy more than you need and then sell the excess.

    Have a look at cheap irish houses on Instagram for examples of old farm houses that would potentially have power, water, sheds and land attached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dr Bolouswki


    Thanks - I was thinking "access to power" might include land that has road frontage, thus only having to spend the money to run a power line into some sort of easy to build shed or even a shipping container.

    A yard would also be fine grand - what kind of price are they?

    I've seen old houses etc. in the 30-50k region but was hoping to spend far less - am I living in dreamland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dr Bolouswki


    Have a look at cheap irish houses on Instagram for examples of old farm houses that would potentially have power, water, sheds and land attached.

    Great call - thanks!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks - I was thinking "access to power" might include land that has road frontage, thus only having to spend the money to run a power line into some sort of easy to build shed or even a shipping container.

    A yard would also be fine grand - what kind of price are they?

    I've seen old houses etc. in the 30-50k region but was hoping to spend far less - am I living in dreamland?

    What price were you thinking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Hiya

    I was wondering if there is anywhere specific I should be looking to try and buy an acre or so of land for greenhouses/allotment growing? I won't be doing any large scale crops, and at most would be raising chickens (if even). I'd like access to water and electricity though.

    I've been looking at the usual myhome/daft etc in the industrial/farming section - but everything seems to be mental pricing and very little availability.

    Am I looking in the wrong places? How much should I expect to pay for a small piece of land with existing power/water?

    Ideally midlands. Thanks for any advice at all - I'm new!




    It would be fairly difficult to find someone to sell you a small plot from their farm. They way I'd look at that is that I could be letting a big headache move in beside me for relatively little money (no offence meant).


    Maybe you might get someone who had a big garden or had a small field out the back and they are selling the place up and, for whatever reason, conclude that they can make more by splitting them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Look for old derelict houses with the power still attached, ideally the old 1 off council houses in rural areas built to house people in the 40s-60s as they always had a half acre with them, you would have the old house and sheds for storage and a place for poultry and a half acre is more than enough for self sufficiency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dr Bolouswki


    What price were you thinking?

    I've seen plots of land for 10-15k - was figuring adding water and electricity to essentially, a sheds/greenhouse environment might cost a similar amount? So really was hoping to try and get it done for 20k maybe.

    Appreciate all the replies. Still dreaming :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Have you searched to see if there are any allotments in your area?

    The concept or renting small parcels of land is already in use on a small scale around the country, usually only for vegetables, have not heard of anyone keeping chickens though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Dr Bolouswki


    Have you searched to see if there are any allotments in your area?

    The concept or renting small parcels of land is already in use on a small scale around the country, usually only for vegetables, have not heard of anyone keeping chickens though.

    Wow! Didn't even realise this was possible! Brilliant! Have just filled out an application for an allotment in my area. You're right though - no chucks :(


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've seen plots of land for 10-15k - was figuring adding water and electricity to essentially, a sheds/greenhouse environment might cost a similar amount? So really was hoping to try and get it done for 20k maybe.

    Appreciate all the replies. Still dreaming :)
    A new electricity connection is €3,500 alone for the fee.
    Water would be similar.
    Your installation would also have to certified as compliant by a registered electrical contractor, which won't be cheap.


    As I said looking for an acre with road frontage, power line, water, decent land - you are competing with self builders.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    What do you mean by powered?
    Something with a mains connection would probably be either a farm yard or a house.

    At that size you are competing with home builders.

    It has come up before that it is probably easier to buy more than you need and then sell the excess.

    Have a look at cheap irish houses on Instagram for examples of old farm houses that would potentially have power, water, sheds and land attached.

    Everything she posts generates massive interest and ends up doublin in price from the asking


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Look for old derelict houses with the power still attached, ideally the old 1 off council houses in rural areas built to house people in the 40s-60s as they always had a half acre with them, you would have the old house and sheds for storage and a place for poultry and a half acre is more than enough for self sufficiency

    Not sure how to get one, but this is a good place to look. They tend to be small, mass concrete built and semi-detached with a half acre of garden. Try the co-cos in the midlands, cheapest one I saw locally made 12k in the last downturn. Perhaps rent one from the council first, they usually have buy out options.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 batyushki


    You don't really need power, a small solar panel charging a leisure battery is enough for a pump or for an electric fence.

    We bought an acre a number of years ago near our house, it was expensive (not quite site prices but not agricultural prices either). Small plots are more expensive generally. It is usually cheaper (if you had the money) to buy 5 acres and sell 4, than to buy 1 acre.

    Location is key - don't buy something that is even remotely distant from your house, you will end up not going there and waste the money. We can walk to our place and it is only this that has allowed us to use it frequently. Plus if you have animals you need to be able to get there twice a day without making a big dent in your day.

    Best of luck, having a bit of land has been so important for us especially with the last year, somewhere to get away from the house and get some space.


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