Small diesel SUV advice

Birdnuts

Posting this on behalf of a friend. Looking to buy a small Diesel Suv to do around 25k a year. Budget is around 20k euros. Did a bit or research myself on this and it appears the Mazda Cx3 ticks alot of boxes. Folks on here might know better though. Thanx in advance:)

benji79

Seat Arona or maybe the slightly bigger Ateca

bazz26

Is that 25k km or 25k miles per year? What sort of roads will it driven on? Small SUV crossovers are based on small city cars so the suspension and comfort won't be as good as a slight bigger car. For example something like a Qashqai would be a good bit more comfortable on long journeys over the smaller Juke, etc.

Birdnuts

bazz26 wrote: »

Is that 25k km or 25k miles per year? What sort of roads will it driven on? Small SUV crossovers are based on small city cars so the suspension and comfort won't be as good as a slight bigger car. For example something like a Qashqai would be a good bit more comfortable on long journeys over the smaller Juke, etc.

25km - will be travelling on the M50 plus trips to the West on rougher roads

User1998

Probably no need to limit themselves to a diesel, anything over 25k I’d say go for diesel but at 25k I think either would suit. They would probably save a bit in fuel costs from a diesel but I’m guessing the resale value of the petrol would be higher in years to come

richardsheil

Mazda diesel engines are still very unreliable

Birdnuts

richardsheil wrote: »

Mazda diesel engines are still very unreliable

Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??

finalfurlong

Birdnuts wrote: »

Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??

Suzuki Vitara fairly rock solid in this segment.Getting a higher spec GL one would still undercut the more common ones vw/puegot bought in the segment.Mitsubishi ASX also very reliable.

bazz26

Vitara feels like it was designed over 10 years ago though especially the interior.

finalfurlong

bazz26 wrote: »

Vitara feels like it was designed over 10 years ago though especially the interior.

Yeah thats the trade off i suppose Bazz.Both it and mitsubishi seem to major on reliability than style.But if you wanted trouble free driving they do fit bill.List prices are well down on competitors though so it is well worth getting the higher spec to bring bit of improvement in equipment etc.Friend got a vitara sz t last year and is finding it a good overall package and when he was buying found that tiguan rav 4 etc were priced far higher.He intends to drive for long term in vitara and was not convinced the higher trade in value of the tiguan etc was as big a factor for him.

FrankC21

Birdnuts wrote: »

Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??

Renault's French turbocharged DCI engine, cheap to insure, cheap to run, €200 road tax. It so economical and reliable German Mercedes-Benz and Japan Nissan decided to use it.

colm_mcm

Nissan didn’t really have any say in what diesel engine they get to use
Renault own 43% of Nissan.

You are right about it being a good engine though.

Birdnuts

FrankC21 wrote: »

Renault's French turbocharged DCI engine, cheap to insure, cheap to run, €200 road tax. It so economical and reliable German Mercedes-Benz and Japan Nissan decided to use it.

What models have that??

bazz26

Any Merc fitted with a 1.5 litre or 1.6 litre diesel engine will be a Renault engine.

colm_mcm

Birdnuts wrote: »

What models have that??

A Class, B Class, CLA
They badge them as 180d

Birdnuts

Thanx for the suggests folks - I know its getting harder and harder to source this type of vehicle with many companies stopping diesel engine production altogether. Just throwing it out there - are there hybrids/self chargers that could compete in this space too??

bazz26

Toyota C-HR:

https://www.carsireland.ie/2704578

You will pay mad money for one though.

Birdnuts

bazz26 wrote: »

Toyota C-HR:

https://www.carsireland.ie/2704578

You will pay mad money for one though.

Does the Ford Puma Hybrid compete here??

bazz26

The Puma is a "mild" hybrid which is not the same as Toyota's hybrid system. You won't buy a Puma for 20k either, they only hit the market last year.

Birdnuts

Any opinions folks on the Peogeot 2008 diesel?? - seems to get reasonable reviews online

bazz26

Is the new model within your budget? The new model only came out last year and the old one is very dated now.

Birdnuts

bazz26 wrote: »

Is the new model within your budget? The new model only came out last year and the old one is very dated now.

Just about