Unusual Stuff You've Seen

Feisar

So I was annoying myself looking at rifles on guntrader.co.uk and seen the below. An oddball bolt setup to allow a lefty to us a right hand action while maintaining their position.
So it got me thinking, it'd be interesting to hear about stuff they have come across over the years.

J.R.

A 'crossover' stock (mounted right shoulder, looking with the left eye)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcVFrk7omk

J.R.

Right-handed, left eye dominant shotgun

(looks like a poor man's "cripple" stock)

cookimonster

Baby ’ Bretton 12-Bore Silding-Breech Over-And-Under Shotgun.





Not only a unusual sliding break action but the gun was mostly made of aluminium including the barrels...:eek:

Was handed one for a driven boar shoot in south west France, with a pocket full of what looked like buck shot. From what I've read it was just as well I didn't fire it as it weighs in around 2.3 Kg

tudderone

cookimonster wrote: »

Baby ’ Bretton 12-Bore Silding-Breech Over-And-Under Shotgun.





Not only a unusual sliding break action but the gun was mostly made of aluminium including the barrels...:eek:

Was handed one for a driven boar shoot in south west France, with a pocket full of what looked like buck shot. From what I've read it was just as well I didn't fire it as it weighs in around 2.3 Kg

A bit like the Darne sliding breech gun. Always wanted one, and there is one for sale in a dealers in Cork, but with the lead ban thing i wouldn't buy it just yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPy0W23AjA

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

So I was annoying myself looking at rifles on guntrader.co.uk and seen the below. An oddball bolt setup to allow a lefty to us a right hand action while maintaining their position.
So it got me thinking, it'd be interesting to hear about stuff they have come across over the years.

There used to be a .22 rifle, a french Unique i think it was, that you could turn the bolt handle around and use it either side of the action. Did not see the point of it myself. You are either right or left handed.

cookimonster

tudderone wrote: »

A bit like the Darne sliding breech gun. Always wanted one, and there is one for sale in a dealers in Cork, but with the lead ban thing i wouldn't buy it just yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPy0W23AjA

Same guy who has the Bretton has one of the above Darnes along with several extremely long barreled single shot 12 gauge shot guns used in a French Palombière to shoot pigeons off branches.

J.R.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK88EsjZCrc

J.R.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncj3bux7c5o

Rows Grower

I was taking baby steps around a tractor path bend on a hill less than a few km away from my front door at dawn one morning about 6 weeks ago. Nothing unusual in that, the first thing I saw when I had barely turned the bend was a Sika stag on the path about 60 yards away, it saw me and immediately ran towards me. When it got about half way it stopped like a freeze frame in a video and then with it's nostrils nudged awake a half asleep hare that was in the middle of the path. The stag then did an about turn and was gone up the path about 10 yards before disappearing stage right into the bog.

The hare ran towards me. About 10 yards away from me it too did a sudden stop, we had a stare off and the hare legged it after about 4 seconds.

It was one of those unusual moments that you had to be there.

Wadi14

tudderone wrote: »

There used to be a .22 rifle, a french Unique i think it was, that you could turn the bolt handle around and use it either side of the action. Did not see the point of it myself. You are either right or left handed.

If life was only that simple lol, it has nothing to do with the hands it's the eyes are the problem.
If you are say right handed and left eye dominant and shoot sporting prone with a jacket and sling, you can do what I did when I started shooting that discipline, I went and bought a left hand bolt savage, sure that made sense lol, until I realized this gun isn't up to the job, but getting a high end left hand repeater is not easy so I bought a right hand bolt Anschutz and extended the bolt handle as in the pic above so I could cycle the bolt left handed while keeping my gloved right hand on the fore end and my check on the butt.

This is why you will see bolt handle extensions on right hand bolt rifles that shooters use for Target shooting discipline's where a sling has to be used. The sling on your right arm prevents you from reaching to a right hand bolt to cycle it.

Bogwoppit

I was in Ensenada, Mexico for work a couple of years ago. Got taken to a few bars by a wealthy client, saw some rather unusual stuff to say the least.

paulireland

Eh Gringo

clivej

When you have put all the "No Entry, Firearms in Use" signs up on the entrance gates. Your well into the forest on a ride. See a nice deer about 100y down the ride on the opposite side of the ride and drop it with a clean shot, with the forest as your backstop. Go up to the deer to do the grolloch and a walker comes along down the ride from behind where the deer was.
He said.........
"No I didn't see any signs, and anyway I don't take any notice of those. I thought you were a lot further away when I heard the shot"

Feisar

clivej wrote: »

When you have put all the "No Entry, Firearms in Use" signs up on the entrance gates. Your well into the forest on a ride. See a nice deer about 100y down the ride on the opposite side of the ride and drop it with a clean shot, with the forest as your backstop. Go up to the deer to do the grolloch and a walker comes along down the ride from behind where the deer was.
He said.........
"No I didn't see any signs, and anyway I don't take any notice of those. I thought you were a lot further away when I heard the shot"

Yea because your special and the rules don't apply...

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

Yea because your special and the rules don't apply...

Its the Irish way.

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

A bit like the Darne sliding breech gun. Always wanted one, and there is one for sale in a dealers in Cork, but with the lead ban thing i wouldn't buy it just yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPy0W23AjA

One of my mentors here in Ireland was a dedicated bird hunting man and a little man in statue. But a giant in hunting He only shot 16 and20 gauge guns and had both the baby Breton 20 GA and a 16 ga Darne, and a lovely 20 GA Merkel that was built for the now illegal live trap pigeon shooting. The baby Breton was a sweet little gun for a day walking up woodcock or snipe hunting, wouldn't know you were carrying it at all at the end of the day. The Darne..Well its's ..unique...And if you are Ian Mc Collum[aka Gun Jesus] you'd love it!:)

Grizzly 45

I'd rate this as one of the most unusual firearm attachments.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

I'd rate this as one of the most unusual firearm attachments.

Or just buy a winchester model 12 pump or a model 23 db . Brilliant thinking on someones behalf though.

tudderone

An unusual rifle with the bolt handle electrically operated, for a disabled chap. You can fast forward to the half way point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmy0RIQlbL0

cookimonster

tudderone wrote: »

An unusual rifle with the bolt handle electrically operated, for a disabled chap. You can fast forward to the half way point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmy0RIQlbL0

Brilliant, looked at that on the large screen, I like the channel great source of gun porn.

I infact have the Mauser M96 American (to give it, it's full moniker, mine in 30-06, but have used one in 7mm Remington Magnum. Very good and reliable rifle that lost out to the incoming Blaser straight pulls (Mauser take overs and what not) and the fact the Americans didn't / don't dig straight pulls (Savage Impluse - watch this space).
The discontinued M96 was resurrected by Rossler in the guise of the TITAN 16. It use the same system with a rotary bolt with Its sixteen locking lugs that lock directly into the barrel. Stoner style lock up!

tudderone

The Italian Cosmi shotgun, supposed to be the business, looks well made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8C84kmC3oI

tudderone

I want one of these so bad it hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EqkcVlzVSw

Grizzly 45

Comrade Parrty secretary-general Breshnesvs favourite shotgun.:p

Nothing like some western imperialist capitalist luxury when out for the day with the comrade's bird hunting.

One for sale here at a snip of 7,250 euros.:) https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12794974

I suppose we should also add our own attempt at breaking into the firearms market world... JP Kavanagh's The Fenian?

Feisar

tudderone wrote: »

I want one of these so bad it hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EqkcVlzVSw

$12 - $30K one lad said in the comments!

My dreams of having an original Colt Python seem a little more attainable now!

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Comrade Parrty secretary-general Breshnesvs favourite shotgun.:p

Nothing like some western imperialist capitalist luxury when out for the day with the comrade's bird hunting.

One for sale here at a snip of 7,250 euros.:) https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12794974

I suppose we should also add our own attempt at breaking into the firearms market world... JP Kavanagh's The Fenian?

Communism for thee, but not for me :rolleyes:.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Comrade Parrty secretary-general Breshnesvs favourite shotgun.:p

Nothing like some western imperialist capitalist luxury when out for the day with the comrade's bird hunting.

One for sale here at a snip of 7,250 euros.:) https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12794974

I suppose we should also add our own attempt at breaking into the firearms market world... JP Kavanagh's The Fenian?

A positive video of the Kavanagh fenian gun works from RTE.


https://www.rte.ie/archives/2018/1112/1010365-fenian-gun-company/

meathstevie

tudderone wrote: »

A positive video of the Kavanagh fenian gun works from RTE.


https://www.rte.ie/archives/2018/1112/1010365-fenian-gun-company/

That proof house has gotten delayed a bit as well.

tudderone

meathstevie wrote: »

That proof house has gotten delayed a bit as well.

You young whipper-snappers are always in a tearing hurry

paulireland

Were these ever sold

tudderone

paulireland wrote: »

Were these ever sold

I remember there were adverts in the Irish shooting magazines years ago for them. But never seen or heard of one in the flesh. I must ask around. That video is from 1967 or 68, the poo-storm kicked off in the north in 69-70, and i do remember hearing that Kavanagh was under pressure from the gardai to pack it in. So maybe only 3 or 4 years of them being made ?

Grizzly 45

Yup,a few hundred were made alright.
The trouble with them is their locking /guide bars weren't properly heat treated and tend to go wonky after a while. Plus they are supposedly a "Buttstock muncher" design that crack and split the stock where it joins the metal.

Add to that the mularkey with the proof house here, and the fact the Irish Govt didn't want to pay for employing a master proofer from Birmingham, that it was cheaper to send the guns to the UK to get them proofed over there and sell them in a bigger market of the UK, where it wasn't a big hit either and the fact that Kavanaugh's went into liquidation during all this, and it all fell apart after that.

However,I think the Irish govt will be forced soon enough to have to relook all this proof house legislation as it is now too expensive to send guns to the UK for proofing or deacting or to the Continent as well.about 400 euros per gun now for a round trip to Liege or Ulm,and god knows what sort of a waiting period to test them as well,if they are pushing alternative ammo to lead.As you wont be even able to sell your gun without it being in proof under EU law.

Or as soon as someone is wearing a bolt in their head from some Irish "gunsmith" [Who does a sideline in making fine cattle grids!:eek:]creation and their next of kin is suing the gun plumber for product liability.:eek:

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Yup,a few hundred were made alright.
The trouble with them is their locking /guide bars weren't properly heat treated and tend to go wonky after a while. Plus they are supposedly a "Buttstock muncher" design that crack and split the stock where it joins the metal.

Add to that the mularkey with the proof house here, and the fact the Irish Govt didn't want to pay for employing a master proofer from Birmingham, that it was cheaper to send the guns to the UK to get them proofed over there and sell them in a bigger market of the UK, where it wasn't a big hit either and the fact that Kavanaugh's went into liquidation during all this, and it all fell apart after that.

However,I think the Irish govt will be forced soon enough to have to relook all this proof house legislation as it is now too expensive to send guns to the UK for proofing or deacting or to the Continent as well.about 400 euros per gun now for a round trip to Liege or Ulm,and god knows what sort of a waiting period to test them as well,if they are pushing alternative ammo to lead.As you wont be even able to sell your gun without it being in proof under EU law.

Or as soon as someone is wearing a bolt in their head from some Irish "gunsmith" [Who does a sideline in making fine cattle grids!:eek:]creation and their next of kin is suing the gun plumber for product liability.:eek:

They'll make a thundering ball-of-wax of it like everything else. It'll become a cash cow like the NCT.

Grizzly 45

Except under EU law it has to be a govt dept...As you are affixing a state symbol to a firearm. So you cant pawn it off to Johnny Fuxsticks TD's brother in law who has a gunshop or was in the FCA. in some private/public partnership. As well as having to employ a master proofer with qualifications whereupon the ultimate responsibility would lie. we all know how many vehicle inspectors..AKA mechanics who found being a mechanic too challenging in day to day life have been employed by the NCT , with fun and games and hilarity has ensued because of it.:rolleyes: