don't ride on a flat ...

souter

... you'll destroy the wheel.
An adage I remember well from my youth, and now my muppet of a child seems to have completed a Belgium criterium sans tyre or tube.
Surveying the damage the rims are helluva burred, so I'm thinking if I get him to file the insides so there are no spiky bits left it will be good to go.
Or am I missing some more insidious lurking threat ?

Raymzor

souter wrote: »

... you'll destroy the wheel.
An adage I remember well from my youth, and now my muppet of a child seems to have completed a Belgium criterium sans tyre or tube.
Surveying the damage the rims are helluva burred, so I'm thinking if I get him to file the insides so there are no spiky bits left it will be good to go.
Or am I missing some more insidious lurking threat ?

any photos?

Mimon

souter wrote: »

... you'll destroy the wheel.
An adage I remember well from my youth, and now my muppet of a child seems to have completed a Belgium criterium sans tyre or tube.
Surveying the damage the rims are helluva burred, so I'm thinking if I get him to file the insides so there are no spiky bits left it will be good to go.
Or am I missing some more insidious lurking threat ?

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

ted1

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

There’s always one....

souter

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4wAHw2gouU4NrxELYDYOHSpCkY-kq03/view?usp=sharing

endacl

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

If a child, on occasion, acts as a muppet, it is appropriate to refer to them thusly, but only in connection to specific muppetry. It does not necessarily follow that this designation defines them completely and in perpetuity.

I second the naming.

Chill.

:cool:

knucklehead6

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

Ohhhh I think I’ll follow this thread, purely for entertainment value.

souter

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

https://www.clypd.com/the-most-sensational-inspirational-muppetational-show-ever/

punisher5112

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

Kids are stupid, do stupid things and especially boys.....

cletus

Did he do it deliberately? The wheel has specialized tape on it, so assuming it's a "good" wheel.

How old is he? This would be a determining factor in the filing. Although there's no guarantee the it would be done properly, and you'd most likely have to go round at it again yourself

souter

My beloved cherub of a son is not far from being able to enlist in the army if so minded.
I think he can be trusted with a nail file, which is all I have to hand at the moment.
The bike is new 2nd-hand - A bit of an oxymoron I know, so I'm not overly concerned.
Yes, I would be checking it out afterward anyway because I'm a bit of a control freak that way. If it doesn't work out he'll be getting punctures and I'll be fixing them.
So we're in it together.

Raymzor

souter wrote: »

https://www.clypd.com/the-most-sensational-inspirational-muppetational-show-ever/

I can see why you are p**sed off. It can be sorted with a lot of hard work and the right approach which you have to weigh up against the cost of a new wheel-id price it up before trying to repair.

If you choose to repair, start with a roll of emery paper! Unless your very handy with a steel file you'll end up with bad flat spots. cant see a nail file working unless you have 100 of them.

magicbastarder

what is the wheel? i.e. what model? may just be easier as mentioned above, to replace it.

souter

Raymzor wrote: »

I can see why you are p**sed off. It can be sorted with a lot of hard work and the right approach which you have to weigh up against the cost of a new wheel-id price it up before trying to repair.

If you choose to repair, start with a roll of emery paper! Unless your very handy with a steel file you'll end up with bad flat spots. cant see a nail file working unless you have 100 of them.

Flat bald spots? Sorry, I misread, thinking about my head.
A nail file would be a luxury , my tools are an old set of rat tail files.
Possibly some scraps of used sandpaper.
Ah well, never a better time to take up a new hobby.

But anyway, back to gist of the original query - is it only the internal rim surface that need be worried about?

cletus

souter wrote: »

Flat bald spots? Sorry, I misread, thinking about my head.
A nail file would be a luxury , my tools are an old set of rat tail files.
Possibly some scraps of used sandpaper.
Ah well, never a better time to take up a new hobby.

But anyway, back to gist of the original query - is it only the internal rim surface that need be worried about?

Flat spots, from filing away too much material.

I'd be inclined to file down any burrs that look like the might contact the tube or tyre.

You won't do this job with a nail file

Raymzor

souter wrote: »

Flat bald spots? Sorry, I misread, thinking about my head.
A nail file would be a luxury , my tools are an old set of rat tail files.
Possibly some scraps of used sandpaper.
Ah well, never a better time to take up a new hobby.

But anyway, back to gist of the original query - is it only the internal rim surface that need be worried about?

Ok sounds like you are looking for shortcuts!

Top edge will rip the tyre every time you try to fix a puncture if you focus on the inside edges only! If you want to take the ultimate short cut of laziness then run Emery paper over one side of the rim, say on the cassette site. Then clean the top edge of the rim over 150mm of the circumference to use as the only area where you prize the tyre over!!!

Type 17

Photo doesn’t look too bad. If the hook function of the rim is intact- ie: it provides a lip all the way around to secure the tyre safely, and there are no dents or flat-spots, then it should be ok - use a file to flatten any burrs that might damage the tyre or brake pads.

dreddie

Mimon wrote: »

You think it's ok to call your child a muppet?

I take it that you don't have children:)

Muppet Man

endacl wrote: »

If a child, on occasion, acts as a muppet, it is appropriate to refer to them thusly, but only in connection to specific muppetry. It does not necessarily follow that this designation defines them completely and in perpetuity.

I second the naming.

Chill.

:cool:

Just be careful he doesn’t grow up like me

Vestiapx

Can you not spin the wheel and hold some wet and dry in a cloth against it?
That's what I'd do but I'm a philistine so it's a question not an instruction.

G1032

souter wrote: »

... you'll destroy the wheel.
An adage I remember well from my youth, and now my muppet of a child seems to have completed a Belgium criterium sans tyre or tube.
Surveying the damage the rims are helluva burred, so I'm thinking if I get him to file the insides so there are no spiky bits left it will be good to go.
Or am I missing some more insidious lurking threat ?

Where did he finish in the crit?

tigerboon

cletus wrote: »

Flat spots, from filing away too much material.

I'd be inclined to file down any burrs that look like the might contact the tube or tyre.

You won't do this job with a nail file

Not but he'd learn a valuable lesson

Tombo2001

I like the muppets, dont see the issue here.

CramCycle

Vestiapx wrote: »

Can you not spin the wheel and hold some wet and dry in a cloth against it?
That's what I'd do but I'm a philistine so it's a question not an instruction.

Pretty much what I would suggest, shouldn't take to long or be that big a deal.
As a parent, despite how intelligent my kids are by measured standards, I am always amazed at how stupid they can be but I suspect, like many here, we all have forgotten many of the stupid things we done as children, I regrettably evn remember a few.

cletus

CramCycle wrote: »

Pretty much what I would suggest, shouldn't take to long or be that big a deal.
As a parent, despite how intelligent my kids are by measured standards, I am always amazed at how stupid they can be but I suspect, like many here, we all have forgotten many of the stupid things we done as children, I regrettably evn remember a few.

Depends how big the burrs are. Some may need to be knocked down with a file. Spinning the wheel and holding sand/emory paper to it would come after that.

seamus

cletus wrote: »

Depends how big the burrs are. Some may need to be knocked down with a file. Spinning the wheel and holding sand/emory paper to it would come after that.

Sounds like the way to go about it. It doesn't need to be smooth as a baby's arse, just not have any real spikes, peaks or troughs.

thehairygrape

souter wrote: »

... you'll destroy the wheel.
An adage I remember well from my youth, and now my muppet of a child seems to have completed a Belgium criterium sans tyre or tube.
Surveying the damage the rims are helluva burred, so I'm thinking if I get him to file the insides so there are no spiky bits left it will be good to go.
Or am I missing some more insidious lurking threat ?

I’m impressed he finished it. Fair play. Can’t help you with repairs. If it were me I’d buy a new wheel, but that’s because of laziness combined with lack of knowledge/ability.
Also, I like the muppets.