Cartridges

Alex Lennon

Anyone with any experience with Armusa carts?

I got 3 boxes thrown in when buying a bunch of gear. Apparently small Spanish company.

I normally shoot 30/32 #6 or #5 Eleys or Gamebore rough shooting pheasant. 30/32 7 or 8 woodies.

What I got was Armusa PLA-1 34g #6. These are euro size. 2.7 mm so more like a 5.5 Brit shot. Ok. Would be grand for further out late pheasant.

But another one is Armusa PLA-1 34g #7 (2.5mm - presumably stamped correctly on the casing, but oddly misprinted on the box as 2,25, because that's the wrong direction and weird)

Anyway, that's like 34g of 6.5 Brit shot. Can't think of what this would be ideal for rough shooting in Ireland. Would be ballastically unhelpul on any game birds at any range here wouldn't it? Maybe blasting corvids?

So any thoughts?

The third box is really interesting. Armusa Dispersante (dispersing). 34g #9. (2mm) That's a small 9. Apparently the wad has its own chambers so it throws this stuff in multiple shot clusters like fireworks or something? Open choked I'd like to see it in slow mo. Might be good for woodies w open choke?

useurowname

The fact that some of the spec is misprinted on the packaging wouldn’t fill me with confidence.
Anyway I’ve never heard of the, so that’s no use to you.

J.R.

Alex Lennon wrote: »

Anyway, that's like 34g of 6.5 Brit shot. Can't think of what this would be ideal for rough shooting in Ireland.

The third box is really interesting. Armusa Dispersante (dispersing). 34g #9. (2mm) That's a small 9.

Never heard off them.

The 34g #6.5 could be good for duck shooting.

34g # 9 that's an unusual cartridge.......maybe use for jumpy snipe.

J.R.

This box of 25 cartridges 40g #0 Baby Magnum seems great value, at that price........€8.99 a box.

https://open-season-guns.myshopify.com/products/shotgun-ammo-cartridges-12g-40gm

furandfeather

J.R. wrote: »

This box of 25 cartridges 40g #0 Baby Magnum seems great value, at that price........€8.99 a box.

https://open-season-guns.myshopify.com/products/shotgun-ammo-cartridges-12g-40gm

Only 10 cartridges in them boxes.
Iv used the 50g No2 for the past 2 years for foxing, I can't fault them.
Bought a slab of 32g no 5 last summer for crow shooting, found them just ok

Mellor

Alex Lennon wrote: »

The third box is really interesting. Armusa Dispersante (dispersing). 34g #9. (2mm) That's a small 9. Apparently the wad has its own chambers so it throws this stuff in multiple shot clusters like fireworks or something?

I might be missing a trick here.
But I can’t understand why that’d be desirable. Surely you want the shot to do where you’re pointing it, as evenly as possible.

Alex Lennon

Mellor wrote: »

I might be missing a truck here.
But I can’t understand why that’d be desirable. Surely you want the shot to do where you’re pointing it, as evenly as possible.

So it's nor really "multiple shot clusters". It's discussed and has an image in shotgun world forum "spreader shells" Can't post url link as I'm a newbie.


Shotgunworld "How spreader shells perform"

I suppose it would have its uses on the more delicate game at short range.

No more opinions on the usefulness of 34g of #7 (6.5)?

Woodcock shot

Just curious do you know do these cartridges have a green plastic wad?

Mellor

Alex Lennon wrote: »

So it's nor really "multiple shot clusters". It's discussed and has an image in shotgun world forum "spreader shells" Can't post url link as I'm a newbie.

Ah I get what you mean. Is the to force it out from the centre for more density at the periphery. ThstvI could see the benefit of.

Alex Lennon

Woodcock shot wrote: »

Just curious do you know do these cartridges have a green plastic wad?

They make them but I think the ones I got are regular plastic. Found website (put link back together: ) en . cartuchosarmusa . Com

Seems a few shops around Ireland are selling these. I dunno. Found another error on their web. Their dispersante is marked 34 on box but in their specs on web it says 30. Typos galore also found a picture online of #7s (same green box as mine) and,it says 3,25! ??? As above, sticker on box says 2,25 but shell case stamped 2.5mm

???

Alex Lennon

Alex Lennon wrote: »

Anyone with any experience with Armusa carts?

...Armusa PLA-1 34g #7 (2.5mm)...

...Anyway, that's like 34g of 6.5 Brit shot. Can't think of what this would be ideal for rough shooting in Ireland. Would be ballistically unhelpful on any game birds at any range here wouldn't it? Maybe blasting corvids?

So any thoughts?...

Bump?

Rats? ;-)

Asus1

Alex Lennon wrote: »

Bump?

Rats? ;-)

I think on the continent they shoot a lot of birds we won't shoot here like thrush and starling so maybe it's for them.

Feisar

Asus1 wrote: »

I think on the continent they shoot a lot of birds we won't shoot here like thrush and starling so maybe it's for them.

I used to hear that years ago from lads in the gun club down in Dad’s homeplace. “Such and such brought over a load of Italians and they blasted anything and everything”.

Vizzy

Feisar wrote: »

I used to hear that years ago from lads in the gun club down in Dad’s homeplace. “Such and such brought over a load of Italians and they blasted anything and everything”.

And they were correct.

Local hotel here had about 10 rooms rented for the entire summer and there wasn't a songbird in the locality for years after they left

Asus1

Feisar wrote: »

I used to hear that years ago from lads in the gun club down in Dad’s homeplace. “Such and such brought over a load of Italians and they blasted anything and everything”.

I'm not saying it to insult shooters on the continent,what they shoot is up to them once it's within the laws.But I'm fairly certain that starling and thrush are shot and I'm nearly sure RC make a cartridge specific for thrushes.Ill have a look to see can I find it.

Asus1

Feisar wrote: »

I used to hear that years ago from lads in the gun club down in Dad’s homeplace. “Such and such brought over a load of Italians and they blasted anything and everything”.

https://www.chedditeitaly.it/pagina-cartucce-da-caccia/?lang=en
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/tordo/index.aspx
I was wrong on RC.But again what's being shot is within the rules of said country or countries so that's there business.Anyway sorry for dragging question op asked off topic, feel free to delete anything that's clogging up topic.

Alex Lennon

No bother! Probably haven't got an answer really (except maybe ducks, but wouldn't be my load of choice for them either even walking rough wetland where I stumble on some short rangers) because it's too much medium small sized lead. When the clay grounds open again, I'll probably just spend it as some practice snapping and poking...Sure the guys wouldn't mind for casual busting dishes.

no_4

ive used armusa #6 on corvids and duck, couldnt fault them, but they are no cheaper than eley in my local rfd though...

Alex Lennon

Thanks. I see. But 6 in Armusa is like 5.5 in Eley. Decent size for duck. What weight?

7 in Armusa is like 6.5 in Eley. Therefore, they want to be closer range, but then 34 grams of the stuff is a lot of lead even if the choke was opened. Just can't figure this load. Like I said, all I can think of is thin skinned stuff you wouldn't be putting on a plate to eat!