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Broken chimney flue

  • 03-02-2021 9:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭


    I had some sand falling from the chimney in to my inset stove so I pulled the stove out to investigate. I was able to look up the chimney and saw that the second flue from the bottom is badly damaged.
    It's a 2 storey house. What are my options? I'd like to avoid opening the whole chimney up if possible. Is there any hope that I could just open up the chimney breast and replace the broken flue?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    Assuming clay flue liners:
    Have entire chimney camera surveyed (there may be other sections damaged). Results will inform repair.

    Clay flue liner sections are replaced by opening the breast locally.

    Alternatively you can either disuse the flue or line it entirely with a steel insert liner.

    Just do something other than causing further damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭sky6


    My Daughter had a Chimney Fire last Year. The House is only Twelve Years old.
    The net result was several flue liners were damaged.

    My own reaction was they'd have to open the Chimney or fit a liner.

    Her husband was given the name of a Company from a contact of his.
    They came out, inspected it and advised that they may have to open the Chimney in one or two places. After Insurance approval they gave them the go ahead.

    All I can say they done an amazing job, They changed several liners without opening up anywhere that I could see. And all done in 2 Days.

    I would have loved to have been there to see how they done it.
    If you want you can PM me. I'll get their name for you.

    I've no connection, I'd just love to know how they actually done it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭bfclancy


    sky6 wrote: »
    My Daughter had a Chimney Fire last Year. The House is only Twelve Years old.
    The net result was several flue liners were damaged.

    My own reaction was they'd have to open the Chimney or fit a liner.

    Her husband was given the name of a Company from a contact of his.
    They came out, inspected it and advised that they may have to open the Chimney in one or two places. After Insurance approval they gave them the go ahead.

    All I can say they done an amazing job, They changed several liners without opening up anywhere that I could see. And all done in 2 Days.

    I would have loved to have been there to see how they done it.
    If you want you can PM me. I'll get their name for you.

    I've no connection, I'd just love to know how they actually done it.

    well they definitely opened it up somewhere not possible otherwise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭sky6


    Yes They opened it up behind a Painting she has in the Sitting room and replaced it there after using Camera etc. They even Plastered it to match when finished.
    No problems since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    bfclancy wrote: »
    well they definitely opened it up somewhere not possible otherwise

    I'm hoping to avoid this as much as possible as I have a stone clad chimney breast, a built in wardrobe in the bedroom above that and a walk in wardrobe in a converted attic above that.

    I'll just have to get a camera up it to check for more damage higher up.
    If it's a case that it's only the flue near the bottom that's damaged would it be possible to remove the stove, prop the flue above the damaged one and then cut a hole in the chimney breast and try to replace the damaged clay flue?
    I know you'd have to remove the prop to get the new flue in and the lip of the flue would make it difficult to get a new flue in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭bfclancy


    aido79 wrote: »
    I'm hoping to avoid this as much as possible as I have a stone clad chimney breast, a built in wardrobe in the bedroom above that and a walk in wardrobe in a converted attic above that.

    I'll just have to get a camera up it to check for more damage higher up.
    If it's a case that it's only the flue near the bottom that's damaged would it be possible to remove the stove, prop the flue above the damaged one and then cut a hole in the chimney breast and try to replace the damaged clay flue?
    I know you'd have to remove the prop to get the new flue in and the lip of the flue would make it difficult to get a new flue in.

    i'm assuming the flues sit on a concrete flue gather, if this is the case the flue won't fit up through the hole in the flue gather, the bottom lip of the broken flue is resting on some opening, this opening is smaller than the flue otherwise it would not hold the flue up so logically you won't be able to fit a new flue up through this ope, put up a steel liner, job done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    bfclancy wrote: »
    i'm assuming the flues sit on a concrete flue gather, if this is the case the flue won't fit up through the hole in the flue gather, the bottom lip of the broken flue is resting on some opening, this opening is smaller than the flue otherwise it would not hold the flue up so logically you won't be able to fit a new flue up through this ope, put up a steel liner, job done

    I was actually meaning to cut a hole in the chimney breast and put the flue through that rather from the bottom.
    My neighbour had a damaged flue and just put a stainless steel liner in without repairing the damage to the flue and they still have sand coming down their chimney so not that keen on doing it that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭bfclancy


    aido79 wrote: »
    I was actually meaning to cut a hole in the chimney breast and put the flue through that rather from the bottom.
    My neighbour had a damaged flue and just put a stainless steel liner in without repairing the damage to the flue and they still have sand coming down their chimney so not that keen on doing it that way.

    sorry misread your post, yes this is the way to do it, cut a hole, break out the damaged flue and slip in a new one, won't be easy but doable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Steven81


    We had the exact same problem about a year ago, had to go through insurance as it cost a couple of thousand, company will ask for no claims for last 5 years so start getting that ready.
    It took 2-3 days, they cut a section out above fireplace and scaffolding on top of roof, had to rebuild up, he said it was 2 tonne of bricks in total on day 1.
    If you are getting it done get the right person, talk to people who have had it done.


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