Is this possible?

awny

Hi all,

Myself and my husband are hoping to build on his farmland in a couple of years time. We are not in a position to do it at the moment as he is modernising the farm.

In the meantime, we are hoping to buy a house in the local village which is about 3km from the farm.

My question is could I buy the house in the village in my own name if buying with cash? And could my husband apply for planning on the land in a couple of years in his own name?

We have heard that we will not get planning on the farm if we already own a house so I was wondering if this could be a way around that.

Any info would be appreciated!

looksee

When people talk about being a cash buyer of a house they simply mean not going through the bank or getting a loan or mortgage. Is this what you mean or are you talking about actual cash?

'We have heard' about planning - was this from a planner at a pre-planning meeting? If you are just assuming you will get permission to build on your land you should have a pre-planning meeting to get an indication of whether it would be feasible. Its not just about the local needs clause, it also depends on the land, there could be reasons why getting permission might not be possible at any time. They will not tell you you will definitely get permission, but they will give an indication of the likelyhood.

As to buying with cash, there is still a legal transfer of property, you would in fact own a house, so it might well make a difference, but the only way to be sure is to go and have a meeting and ask.

Your best option might be to get a local architect/engineer on board and get their advice. Check local granted planning and look at the names of the architect/engineers on the plans to find someone.

thomas 123

awny wrote: »

Hi all,

Myself and my husband are hoping to build on his farmland in a couple of years time. We are not in a position to do it at the moment as he is modernising the farm.

In the meantime, we are hoping to buy a house in the local village which is about 3km from the farm.

My question is could I buy the house in the village in my own name if buying with cash? And could my husband apply for planning on the land in a couple of years in his own name?

We have heard that we will not get planning on the farm if we already own a house so I was wondering if this could be a way around that.

Any info would be appreciated!

Would you consider just applying for PP now? Getting it granted and then doing what you want for the period it’s granted for.

Not professional advice of course!

famagusta

With the new planning laws that are coming this year or next, I would definitely go about getting your planning asap, you can sit on it for a couple of years.
I would strongly advise that you speak to your local councillor and set up a pre planning meeting with the county council.

Gumbo

famagusta wrote: »

With the new planning laws that are coming this year or next, I would definitely go about getting your planning asap, you can sit on it for a couple of years.
I would strongly advise that you speak to your local councillor and set up a pre planning meeting with the county council.

What new planning laws?

Dudda

Agreed on getting planning permission now. It lasts 5 years and then you can look to extend it for another 5 years. That's 10 years you have to get the house to wall plate level. The hardest part will be designing the house you want in 10 years and not your current needs.

Larbre34

Gumbo wrote: »

What new planning laws?

Well, thats the crux of it.

Project 2040 demands the inclusion in the renewal of County Development Plans, new rural development principles, which encourage development of clusters around villages and towns, rather than one-off housing on private land. So basically, British pattern rather than the Irish pattern of development for the last 70 odd years.

However and without doubt, this direction will be massively kicked around and challenged and resisted and ignored in rural Counties across the land. Adopting a Development Plan is one of the few powers left that Councillors have, they are protective of it and their first interest is wanting to do right by their constituents, ahead of the environment and certainly ahead of ' dem up der in Dublin'

Whats most likely to happen, is that some Counties will readily adopt the cluster model, especially those like Kildare, Wicklow and Meath, whereas those with depopulation concerns and economic challenges more generally, will be resistant and may have to have it imposed upon them after a protracted battle.

Not all County Development Plans are renewed at the same time, it will take maybe the next 6 years to work through, so it does depend on where you live as to what challenges you can expect. But yeah, the advice would be to begin the planning process for your husbands land without delay.

Gumbo

Larbre34 wrote: »

Well, thats the crux of it.

Project 2040 demands the inclusion in the renewal of County Development Plans, new rural development principles, which encourage development of clusters around villages and towns, rather than one-off housing on private land. So basically, British pattern rather than the Irish pattern of development for the last 70 odd years.

However and without doubt, this direction will be massively kicked around and challenged and resisted and ignored in rural Counties across the land. Adopting a Development Plan is one of the few powers left that Councillors have, they are protective of it and their first interest is wanting to do right by their constituents, ahead of the environment and certainly ahead of ' dem up der in Dublin'

Whats most likely to happen, is that some Counties will readily adopt the cluster model, especially those like Kildare, Wicklow and Meath, whereas those with depopulation concerns and economic challenges more generally, will be resistant and may have to have it imposed upon them after a protracted battle.

Not all County Development Plans are renewed at the same time, it will take maybe the next 6 years to work through, so it does depend on where you live as to what challenges you can expect. But yeah, the advice would be to begin the planning process for your husbands land without delay.

This has already started in many rural LA’s. They have been against ribbon development for years now.

FileNotFound

Dudda wrote: »

Agreed on getting planning permission now. It lasts 5 years and then you can look to extend it for another 5 years. That's 10 years you have to get the house to wall plate level. The hardest part will be designing the house you want in 10 years and not your current needs.

Edited: not compliant with boards.ie rules of posting.

Apologies to the mods.

Larbre34

Gumbo wrote: »

This has already started in many rural LA’s. They have been against ribbon development for years now.

Yes, but Project 2040 objectives will seek to impose that on Healy Rae types all over the State. Fun times ahead.

BryanF

FileNotFound wrote: »

Not sure what any impact rule changes make but em the brother does retainers for this situation a lot.

Planning not 100% - build how you actually want, as long as its not a mad change or something hyper objectionable.

Get a retainer post build. Rural area not many complaints.

This is probably not advisable but alas it has been done

Please read the forum charter, before posting again. We obey the law in this forum. If you have a problem with this, please contact the mods via PM. It is against the law to build without planning permission.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-30846774.html%3ftype=amp

FileNotFound

BryanF wrote: »

Please read the forum charter, before posting again. We obey the law in this forum. If you have a problem with this, please contact the mods via PM. It is against the law to build without planning permission.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-30846774.html%3ftype=amp

Apologies error on my behalf. I will ensure better going forward.