Fertiliser for new reseed

DJ98

Reseeded a couple of fields in early September and received 3 bags of 10 10 20 to the acre at the time. While there is a nice cover on it at the moment, what would be the best fertiliser to spread on this to drive it on, wait until March to go with 10 10 20 or 18 6 12 or go with something like urea or can early on and then out with the others. Hasn't been grazed yet and will be grazed with ewes and lambs from mid March onwards

mengele

Is it green looking now or has it yellow tint to the grass? A picture would tell a 1000 words.

DJ98

mengele wrote: »

Is it green looking now or has it yellow tint to the grass? A picture would tell a 1000 words.

Yellow tint, will try get a photo tomorrow

mengele

DJ98 wrote: »

Yellow tint, will try get a photo tomorrow

probably needs some bit of feeding so over the next month or so. Id probably go with one bag of 18*6*12 the end of feb depending how temperatures and ground conditions are and then urea after that.

Good loser

After 10.10.20 in Sept nitrogen alone should suffice say 35 units urea per acre.

queueeye

Get a soil test to get an accurate assessment of what you need. Anything else is speculation.
That grass will really drive milk into those sheep and give the lambs a great start.

DBK1

queueeye wrote: »

Get a soil test to get an accurate assessment of what you need. Anything else is speculation.
That grass will really drive milk into those sheep and give the lambs a great start.

That's the best advice you're going to get.

A soil test at €25 - €30 is less than the price of 2 bags of fertiliser. Without that it's only guess work.

You've probably spent well above €200 per acre already when you take all the costs of reseeding into consideration so the soil sample costing maybe €3 - €5 per acre is very cheap and that's the information that will get you the full value out of the rest you've spent.

Good loser

DBK1 wrote: »

That's the best advice you're going to get.

A soil test at €25 - €30 is less than the price of 2 bags of fertiliser. Without that it's only guess work.

You've probably spent well above €200 per acre already when you take all the costs of reseeding into consideration so the soil sample costing maybe €3 - €5 per acre is very cheap and that's the information that will get you the full value out of the rest you've spent.

Not time for that now and the Sept 10.10.20 could distort results.

Put the urea out as above and test next Autumn.

DJ98

Good loser wrote: »

Not time for that now and the Sept 10.10.20 could distort results.

Put the urea out as above and test next Autumn.

When would you go with the urea?

Good loser

DJ98 wrote: »

When would you go with the urea?

Looking at weather forecast 10 days.

Need firm ground, dryish forecast for 3/4 days and soil temp over 6, preferably 7 or 8.

DJ98

At what rate would you apply urea and then when would you go with the likes of the 10 10 20?

White Clover

Was the field ploughed, DJ ?

Bass Reeves

DJ98 wrote: »

At what rate would you apply urea and then when would you go with the likes of the 10 10 20?

Did you soil test before reseeding. If not do you have soil test from that field over last 2-5 years, or for any of the farm. If it's got 3 bags of 10-10-20 last autumn it should be fairly ok for P&K until early mid summer . It will depend on what you are doing with it over the next 13 months.

Urea should get it going from now to mid April if you are only using it for grazing. What is the pH like. How good is the ground, I would spread N as soon as ground can stand it and temperature and weather will allow it. Alot depends on the P&K status of the field. Generally a lot of garnered get more worried about P&K in forest six months of a reseed and ignore N, then they ignore P&K after than and go too heave with N fertlizer.

30-40kgs ideal/ acre when ground and weather allows. If it's for continuous grazing I go with 100 kgs 18-6-12 for second round in late March early April. After that I use N all summer long until I test next winter that will tell you what your soil status is.

If you are unsure of PH I go with 100 kgs of granlime

Reggie.

I'd go with the 18-6-12 as the grass roots will need a boost. The P&K will help the root structure. Important not to over look this. Heavy doses of N can be added later

Finty Lemon

Graze, graze and graze again. That is the key.
Probably 23 units urea when soil temp gets to 6 deg plus
Keep the mower away from it. Soil test and 18:6:12 in April