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Planning condition; "single dwelling only"

  • 20-01-2021 9:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭


    When a planning permission contains a condition that reads

    "The development taken together with existing dwelling shall be used as a single dwelling unit only"

    Reason; To protect the residential amenities of the area"


    how does one define a single dwelling unit? I can imagine an obvious breakup into separate flats with separate entrances, parking spaces, intercoms etc would constitute a multi dwelling but lets say the use is more nuanced e.g. a group of elderly people with separate bedrooms but communal living space -- is that multi dwelling or single dwelling?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,555 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Context? Did you apply for permission for an extension to an existing dwelling house?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    When a planning permission contains a condition that reads

    "The development taken together with existing dwelling shall be used as a single dwelling unit only"

    Reason; To protect the residential amenities of the area"


    how does one define a single dwelling unit? I can imagine an obvious breakup into separate flats with separate entrances, parking spaces, intercoms etc would constitute a multi dwelling but lets say the use is more nuanced e.g. a group of elderly people with separate bedrooms but communal living space -- is that multi dwelling or single dwelling?

    Single family dwelling.

    A group of elderly people with separate bedroom but shared communial living space has its own separate class for planning and possible fire cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,555 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Gumbo wrote: »
    shred communist living space
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭touchdown77


    muffler wrote: »
    Context? Did you apply for permission for an extension to an existing dwelling house?


    Yes exactly, permission for extension to what was previously a 'typical' family home.
    So is the planning condition veering into what defines the occupants i.e. family only because they are a single unit v's a bunch of strangers who share some other sort of connection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    Add to the list of Planning and Fire as above, include by default DAC, the HSE and HIQA. If you are providing a service you then must comply with all the other requirements that go with it and the Insurance aspect as it's now a "business". Lot of boxes to be ticked on this one....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭JimmyMW


    OP, can you confirm the use here, is this for some elderly people who are moving in together like a house share or are you trying some kinda sheltered housing scheme?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yes exactly, permission for extension to what was previously a 'typical' family home.
    So is the planning condition veering into what defines the occupants i.e. family only because they are a single unit v's a bunch of strangers who share some other sort of connection

    An extension to a typical family home is that. An extension, to be continued and enjoyed by the occupants of the main home.

    You seem to veering into an extension to house people in a Residential Institution situation which is a whole new ball game.

    OP, who are the elderly people?
    Is this a granny flat of some sort where your relative will reside or 10 strangers?


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