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Query on planning permission - we are against it

  • 19-01-2021 2:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40


    Edit

    Seems nothing we can do and don't want to be identified


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    why dont you want a better access laneway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Trigger85


    So both our house and neighbours house are on the road. There is a right if way laneway belonging to the previous owner of our house (parents). He also owns the field behind my neighbours house.

    The brother of my neighbour wants to build on that field


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Trigger85 wrote: »
    So both our house and neighbours house are on the road. There is a right if way laneway belonging to the previous owner of our house (parents). He also owns the field behind my neighbours house.

    The brother of my neighbour wants to build on that field

    you still havent said anywhere what your query is?

    are you against something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Trigger85


    I don't want them to be able to build and I'm wondering is there anything we can do. Planning in Ireland favours the people trying to build.

    Apologies for the confusion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭The11Duff


    Well if your neighbour puts in a planning application and you object, then they probably will fall out with you.
    if you don't want anyone to build in the field why don't you buy it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    There is nothing you can do only object when/ if the planning goes in. In doing so the likelihood is you will fall out with the neighbours. You could talk to them and see what they plan but if you are against any house full stop I can't see how that wont be taken poorly.


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Once a planning application is submitted, you can object.
    Whether your objection is successful or not will depend on the merit of your objection.

    Your recent ness or otherwise won't make a difference, just planning law, development guidelines etc.

    Take some professional advice if you want a better objection.

    From what you describe, the lane is adjacent to your property, but you don't own it or use it to access your property?
    Not much you can do about someone wanting to improve their lane.

    Esit: As above, any objection probably won't go down well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Trigger85


    The father owns the site. He wouldn't sell to me. It's piecemeal. The road is full of their relatives. The neighbour is sound but when we bought this house we bought it because of the space behind us.

    The land was initially sterilised and we thought it was for life but a family member of theirs recently got planning.

    Seems nothing we can do apart from grin and bear it.

    Thanks for your help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    The way I see it is that you have 2 options :

    1) Wait until he formally applies and object. To be honest, this probably won't achieve much. Personal objections because it is close to your house or it interrupts your view in any way aren't really taken much into account by county councils. To be honest, the fact that your house is close by will actually help him to get planning as councils rather houses to be in clusters rather than one off out on their own. So, if he does have a local need and an established right to build a house, the council will probably encourage him to build as close as possible to your and his brothers houses. So ultimately, you objecting will not really influence the outcome of the planning and will only sour your relationship with your neighbors.

    2) Go and talk to them and see what ye can agree on amicably between ye. What can ye do RE boundaries, which way the house will face etc etc It is probably not ideal for you as you would rather he not build at all, but it is probably your best option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Are you saying that you have right of way in the field or they do?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Trigger85 wrote: »
    I don't want them to be able to build and I'm wondering is there anything we can do. Planning in Ireland favours the people trying to build.

    Apologies for the confusion

    you need to have valid reasons to object

    "not wanting them to be able to build" is, thankfully, nowhere near a valid reason to object.

    you may wait to see what is proposed, and if what is proposed has a negative effect of your privacy or enjoyment of your dwelling.

    if it has, then you have a valid reason to object.
    if it doesnt, then you dont.

    if you do have a valid reason, there are routes you can take. you can be informal and talk to the applicants, outline your issues, and explain that your only recourse is to make an objection.
    The applicants may decide to withdraw the application and resolve your issues.

    alternatively you can just go ahead and make the objection with consulting the applicants, but thats how bad neightbours are made.... especially as there is a sibling already living on what was traditionally "their" family land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Chiorino


    I don't see anything positive coming from an objection tbh. Obviously, you'd prefer if the site wasn't built on but if this is the only reason for objecting and you would like some sort of pleasant relationship with the neighbours into the future, you might be better just leaving it alone. Who knows, the council might grant nothing anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Will they have access to any new property built in that field other than the laneway?
    Will they be using the laneway for any services (water, gas electricity, etc)


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