Can i fly from paris with my covid test over 72 hours

rugbyman

hello. I am in paris.there are no flights today to dublin.i am booked for wed 20th

My test ,taken in dublin last saturday will be 72hours old at 17.00 today. My result will be 72hours old after the flight departure tomorrow.
Will i be allowed board .

Tests
in france are not private.results CAN take 48hours

Can anyone,esp aer lingus people advise me

rugbyman

By the way ,i rang aerlingus, got a pleasant fellow, spoke excellent english, but he could only quote the rules.

goingnowhere

It is not Aer Lingus its Irish government rules which are consistent with many other EU states.

You need to within 72 hours at time of arrival. So short answer is NO

Long answer is you can and pay a fine of 2500 euro in Dublin, but you will almost certainly be refused travel at check in.

goingnowhere

Private PCR testing is no problem in France

https://www.parisaeroport.fr/en/passengers/services/covid-19-test-pcr-antigenic

rugbyman

Thank you. I had typed a long reply, but its lost

Covid tests in France, seemingly there are plenty of centres, take 48 hours to confirm result.

In Belgium,24hours.

Typing this in case its of use to anyone

HTCOne

rugbyman wrote: »

Thank you. I had typed a long reply, but its lost

Covid tests in France, seemingly there are plenty of centres, take 48 hours to confirm result.

In Belgium,24hours.

Typing this in case its of use to anyone

I’d book a COVID test in Paris then ask EI about changing your booking to two days after said test if possible. Hopefully they’ll accommodate, but even if they charge you it will be a fraction of the fine you could get in DUB.

Board Walker

What's the deal if you are vaccinated? Can you show the Vaccine passport instead or do you still have to do a test?

goingnowhere

No one in Ireland is vaccinated (yet), the first group will get the second jab this week and 7 days after will be deemed fully vaccinated

Until there is proof of which vaccines if any do not spread the virus the vaccine passport idea isn't going to go far

Board Walker

goingnowhere wrote: »

No one in Ireland is vaccinated (yet), the first group will get the second jab this week and 7 days after will be deemed fully vaccinated

Until there is proof of which vaccines if any do not spread the virus the vaccine passport idea isn't going to go far

So no is the answer there :rolleyes:

Noxegon

This post has raised an interesting anomaly – if you want to travel somewhere for a very short trip (one or two nights) then I guess you probably can get a test before you go and use it in both directions.

I'm supposed to be going to a wedding later in the not too distant future, and might well take advantage of that loophole.

Tenger

Noxegon wrote: »

This post has raised an interesting anomaly – if you want to travel somewhere for a very short trip (one or two nights) then I guess you probably can get a test before you go and use it in both directions.

I'm supposed to be going to a wedding later in the not too distant future, and might well take advantage of that loophole.

Which would essentially make the test result pointless because the result was before you traveled and socialised.

HTCOne

Tenger wrote: »

Which would essentially make the test result pointless because the result was before you traveled and socialised.

But in the hypothetical situation even if the poster did contract the virus in the 1 or 2 days they were abroad, they likely wouldn’t test positive for another few days regardless, so the second test is doubly pointless no?

IngazZagni

HTCOne wrote: »

But in the hypothetical situation even if the poster did contract the virus in the 1 or 2 days they were abroad, they likely wouldn’t test positive for another few days regardless, so the second test is doubly pointless no?

Which is why it should be mandatory to get another PCR test 5 days after arriving back to Dublin and mandatory quarantine before that result.

Anything short of that and we will continue to go round in circles for months as people will flout rules which aren't enforced.

Noxegon

IngazZagni wrote: »

Which is why it should be mandatory to get another PCR test 5 days after arriving back to Dublin and mandatory quarantine before that result.

Anything short of that and we will continue to go round in circles for months as people will flout rules which aren't enforced.

I completely agree with this.

Tenger

IngazZagni wrote: »

Which is why it should be mandatory to get another PCR test 5 days after arriving back to Dublin and mandatory quarantine before that result.
....

Should have been in place months ago.
Suitable hotels for quarantine located near each airport.

L1011

There's a never opened, gigantic hotel beside the Clayton if someone wanted to do that at DUB...

Van.Bosch

L1011 wrote: »

There's a never opened, gigantic hotel beside the Clayton if someone wanted to do that at DUB...

If people live in Ireland would you allow them to quarantine at home? Just curious, on one hand it’s cheaper but on the other hand can people be trusted?

***Spoiler alert*** Nope - not all can!

Irish Steve

Van.Bosch wrote: »

If people live in Ireland would you allow them to quarantine at home? Just curious, on one hand it’s cheaper but on the other hand can people be trusted?

***Spoiler alert*** Nope - not all can!

Without a good checking system, no, but with a GPS tag, not an issue, it's very easy to program something like that to send an alert if it goes outside a defined area.

Great pity that such strong measures are needed, but the evidence of Christmas means that honour systems are no longer an acceptable alternative.

Sinus pain

Noxegon wrote: »

This post has raised an interesting anomaly – if you want to travel somewhere for a very short trip (one or two nights) then I guess you probably can get a test before you go and use it in both directions.

I'm supposed to be going to a wedding later in the not too distant future, and might well take advantage of that loophole.

Are you not required to quarantine on arrival in your destination?

Tenger

Sinus pain wrote: »

Are you not required to quarantine on arrival in your destination?

"self isolation" isnt the same as "quarantine".


EG. a mate who is flight crew landed in from the US on the morning of the Dec 23rd with almost 100 passengers onboard.
Doubtful whether those people "self isolated over the next 10-14 days!




Posting from a mod point of view this thread has run its course.
It will be closed later today (Thursday)

Sinus pain

Tenger wrote: »

"self isolation" isnt the same as "quarantine".


EG. a mate who is flight crew landed in from the US on the morning of the Dec 23rd with almost 100 passengers onboard.
Doubtful whether those people "self isolated over the next 10-14 days!

Posting from a mod point of view this thread has run its course.
It will be closed later today (Thursday)

Self isolation would mean ‘self’ though not wedding same as restrict your movements - regardless of what the passengers from that plane did.

Noxegon

Sinus pain wrote: »

Are you not required to quarantine on arrival in your destination?

At the moment, no – the wedding is in the UK, and arrivals from the CTA are not (currently) required to quarantine. (I don't think that's a particularly wise approach, FWIW, but it is what the powers that be have decided.)

ProfessorPlum

IngazZagni wrote: »

Which is why it should be mandatory to get another PCR test 5 days after arriving back to Dublin and mandatory quarantine before that result.

Anything short of that and we will continue to go round in circles for months as people will flout rules which aren't enforced.

Why 5 days? That's not long enough for a zero COVID approach. And if you're going to MHQ people, you'd better do it right.

On that note, anyone who tests positive should also be quarantined, as should their close contacts. If we're advocating zero covid, it has to be all or nothing.

Including the border up north. How does that work??

ProfessorPlum

Tenger wrote: »

"self isolation" isnt the same as "quarantine".


EG. a mate who is flight crew landed in from the US on the morning of the Dec 23rd with almost 100 passengers onboard.
Doubtful whether those people "self isolated over the next 10-14 days!

Unlikely, since they weren’t asked or required to self isolate.

IngazZagni

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Why 5 days? That's not long enough for a zero COVID approach. And if you're going to MHQ people, you'd better do it right.

On that note, anyone who tests positive should also be quarantined, as should their close contacts. If we're advocating zero covid, it has to be all or nothing.

Including the border up north. How does that work??

5 days allows enough time for the virus to show up in a test so I understand. It would be the minimum requirement I feel.

Of course all of this is useless if you can fly into Belfast and hop on a bus to Dublin to avoid all this. Closing the border I feel is political suicide for certain parties and there's no hope of even PCR tests being required on GB - NI flights.

So basically we need this vaccine to work....

ProfessorPlum

IngazZagni wrote: »

5 days allows enough time for the virus to show up in a test so I understand. It would be the minimum requirement I feel.

Of course all of this is useless if you can fly into Belfast and hop on a bus to Dublin to avoid all this. Closing the border I feel is political suicide for certain parties and there's no hope of even PCR tests being required on GB - NI flights.

So basically we need this vaccine to work....

Nope, the incubation period is 2-14 days, and that doesn't account for the outliers - 2% of people will have incubation periods more than 14 days. Yes, most people who will test positive, will test positive by about day 5 but not all, not even close. Hence the requirement for close contacts to restrict movement for the full 14 days, regardless of whether their tests are negative.

If we are going to advocate for mandatory (hotel) quarantine (like Aus/NZ) then we need to do it properly. That includes properly quarantining the infected and close contacts - and we're not even doing that now. Community transmission is a much bigger source of spread than inward travel (who should all be tested at this stage). That is where the greatest source is. And of course there's the border issue.......